Hunting for HD Recovery Points

[inkpot]

The OEM points are pretty stout. If you bust one of those you are pretty much stuck. Someone mentioned the old ARB points. They are dead on. Those points were designed for a Hi-Lift Jack adapter and nothing else. How do I know? Cause I have had several old ARBs and I would never think of using the front jacking points as recovery points although some do. Use your front stock points and put a Slee hitch or whatever rings your bell on the rear.

I agree, but look at how many pics are posted of the ARB bumpers with recovery shackles hanging on them.

 

[blkprj80]

My 80 was missing the front recovery points as someone left them off when they put on one of those wrap-around damage multipliers.

I bought a pair off @nuclearlemon (Ige's) big white truck when she was parting it out. They were very used, but they were still in good shape. If I ever need to use them (haven't yet), I hope they hold up as well for me as they apparently did for her.

 

[Fishinfortuna]

How thick are your recovery points?

Currently all I'm using are the stock tie down points.

 

[Fishinfortuna]

The factory front recovery points are stronger than the ones on the old style ARBs. Don't know if they ever updated them.

That's part

Your recovery Points have failed or you think they will fail?
I think the Bolts would fail (Much Smaller Cross Section) before the Anchor so putting thicker Anchors on really accomplishes nothing.
Shear on a Grade 9 bolts is pretty high.

i have read of problems with factory points, using the ARB and stock fasteners. So I am looking to upgrade the points but not the ARB at this time.

 

[Fishinfortuna]

^ The front tabs/holes on the ARB are definitely NOT recovery points. They mate with ARB's hi-lift jack adapter. Trying to use those tabs as recovery points would be a very bad idea...

cheers,
george.

That's exactly what I have heard and a failure is what I hope to avoid.

 

[Fishinfortuna]

Yes, there have been failures of the OEM anchor points but its not that common. I would not loose too much sleep over it. Unless your standard recovery method is brute force.

There is a another vendor (in addition to above) on the forum with HD mounts but I can't seem to think of his name right now. Or the taps on an ARB bumper can be modified to have the proper strength. "PowderPig" did this a while back and I'm sure there are pics somewhere. But he basically ran bar stock through the bumper that bolded to the frame and welded it all together. Other front bumpers have proper points like the Slee Shortbus. Any rear bumper pretty much solves the problem on that end.

In retrospect I wish I had gone the Shortbus route as everything I have seen Slee make is damn near military grade. Thanks for the lead to search!

 

[Fishinfortuna]

Easy to add a decent recovery point to an ARB :

Backing plate on the inside of the ARB to reinforce and spread the load. Lines up with the frame horn, so a good location to apply some serious pull.

cheers,
george.

Thanks, this is worth exploring. Any idea who makes this product?

 

[Fishinfortuna]

80 Series Recovery Bracket URB PAIR

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I ordered these a month and a half ago, looks like a nice product. But the manufacturer/distributor, let just say dropped the ball so the order was cancelled.

 

[Fishinfortuna]

Pulling through would require some serious failure of the ARB. Like I wrote - I've added a backing plate to 'thicken/spread' the load area on the back side of the ARB. Actually 2 plates, since the mount straddles an internal ARB brace. If that area is good enough for a 12000lb winch to apply forces too, I'm confident for this use.

Link - sorry, it's just a decent brand heavy duty shackle mount that I got 17+ years ago and mounted immediately after.

cheers,
george.

Ahh, I appreciate your logic.

 

[Fishinfortuna]

The one I saw was a weld failure (looked like the weld was short from the factory) and the hoop straightened out. Have successfully used them for recoveries many times, just inspect them occasionally.

I've poked around on some Aussie sites and they mention similar failures. I found a few products there, but they are quite expensive to import.

 

[Fishinfortuna]

There are some Dixon-Bate options on this page...

Expedition Exchange Incorporated :: Recovery Gear

These are the two I am talking about:

Expedition Exchange Incorporated :: Recovery Gear :: Shackle Mounting Bracket (SMB)
Expedition Exchange Incorporated :: Recovery Gear :: Expeditionware Backing Plate For Shackle Mounting Bracket (EW10)


Expedition Exchange Incorporated :: Recovery Gear :: Land Rover Genuine Parts 3.5-Ton Tow Jaw (KNB100640)
Expedition Exchange Incorporated :: Recovery Gear :: Expeditionware Backing Plate For Dixon-Bate 5.0-Ton Tow Jaw (EW12)

Excellent, do you have any personal experience with any of these products?

 

[Corbet]

Hope you put something over your Power Steering Cooler!

Have not hit it yet.

I agree, but look at how many pics are posted of the ARB bumpers with recovery shackles hanging on them.

I keep one there often but more of a storage location. I don't generally attach to that point unless it's very light duty. My tabs are all bent up anyway from rock contact and the winch bending them in from hook storage.

 

[canman]

I purchased some recovery points off of eBay and had them welded to my ARB as well.

 

[Rwhat]

80 Series Recovery Bracket URB PAIR

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That's a stupid amount of money for a piece of steel bent to 90* with 3 laser cut holes. Hopefully for the price it's a pair.

 

[wearsabrowncoat]

Tundra tow loops are direct bolt on replacement for factory tie downs.

 

[LFD2037]

Tundra tow loops are direct bolt on replacement for factory tie downs.

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Damn. I didn't know that!!!

 

[Fishinfortuna]

That's a stupid amount of money for a piece of steel bent to 90* with 3 laser cut holes. Hopefully for the price it's a pair.

Yeah I like the simple, small and strong aspect, less likely to hang up on say a rock or something. But after 45 days without a returned phone call or email I'm taking my business elsewhere.

 

[Hornd]

That's a stupid amount of money for a piece of steel bent to 90* with 3 laser cut holes. Hopefully for the price it's a pair.

Fire up your Harbor Freight Laser Cutter and make a set.
Or do you have a Bridgeport laying around?

 

[half k cruiser]

I wouldn't be too concerned about the factory loops breaking on you. For starters you can get them used for about $20. You do how many recoveries per year ? Also, since there are two of them you just run a safety strap from the one that's not being used to whatever is pulling on the other one. Then, if something does pull through or snap the safety will capture it before it can take off and do any damage.

I understand the cool factor of buying some HD loops. However, the factory metal loop is fairly HD all by itself. There are certainly people in third world countries that have been using the factory supplied Toyota loops for decades and have never felt the need for anything more HD.

 

[maxamillion2345]

Fire up your Harbor Freight Laser Cutter and make a set.
Or do you have a Bridgeport laying around?

I could have both of those made for like 10$. And I wouldnt touch a duiser product, new or old owners.