HJ60 Price

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate
links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

Yeah...me too. If it doesn't sell on ebay, I will make him another offer in person. It is just an hour or so up the road. I was just looking to make sure I'm not paying too much. 14K for a 1981 is going to be hard to justify to the wife!

On a side note....anybody want to buy my Scout?
 
you could buy an 80 series w/ lockers, maybe even lifted/armored for under 10K in California. Then ship it to Proffit's and get a diesel installed (cummins 4bt)... total cost, I think, is still around 20K.... and you've got a much much newer vehicle with a more powerful motor that has easy parts availability in the USA. Just a thought
 
GregFrench said:
Yeah...me too. If it doesn't sell on ebay, I will make him another offer in person. It is just an hour or so up the road. I was just looking to make sure I'm not paying too much. 14K for a 1981 is going to be hard to justify to the wife!

On a side note....anybody want to buy my Scout?
Click to expand...


look for rust really well. you can replace everything on the truck fairly easily, but rust is unbeatable.
j
 
sandcruiser said:
you could buy an 80 series w/ lockers, maybe even lifted/armored for under 10K in California. Then ship it to Proffit's and get a diesel installed (cummins 4bt)... total cost, I think, is still around 20K.... and you've got a much much newer vehicle with a more powerful motor that has easy parts availability in the USA. Just a thought
Click to expand...

Too new for my tastes. And too expensive.
 
Be aware that Latin American 40 series are stripped down versions of the North American updated trucks. I don't know if this is the case with 60 series.

I'm a little bit on the side of Tapage. Even though this is rare in the US, looks clean, has low miles, it's a little bit run of the mill. If it is rust free (as is generally the case in Latin America.... but I gues it also depends on where in S. America it is from), then it is worth a lot, but $14000 is still pushing it considering you might be able to pull off a clean 60 series and do a swap of you choice for the same $$$. A comparable FJ60 would go for .... $5000? Or I would at least do some research on sales comparables to get some perspective.

I also second Sandcruiser re: 80 series. There is nothing remarkable about the 60 series in my book. Solid, but not (yet) the classic 40 series, so if you have the chance to upgrade to an 80 series there's no reason not to in my book.

Of course ultimately it's worth what people will pay for it. I'll watch the eBay auction out of curiosity.

.02

B
 
Martin White said:
I wanted to apologize if I've offended anyone as that's not at all my intention and I realize that there are many people here who have a lifetime worth of experience with these vehicles while I have only a few months. I was just offering a different point of view, more or less from the "outside". I like what you said about "diesel bigot" because I think I'm already turning into one myself! LOL!!! And now that I've messed with these trucks, I can see the value in dealing with a high end importer like Luxury Imports. I USED to look at some of the prices and think they were too high, but now, I know better. In fact, I know several people in B.C. now considering these vehicles and I always recommend they deal with an experienced, legitimate outfit such as Luxury or Outback. And I have nothing to gain by making that recommendation, other than saving someone the trouble of running around doing all the work themselves, or having it done by someone else. Thanks for your reply Wayne. I feel better now. :)
Click to expand...
<diesel bigot> LOL!!
i have watched perfectly sane people become bigots after the first test drive. it really is fun watching someone that have driven a gasser their entire life suddenly smile, like they came home suddenly.
i love the diesel and always have but i also love the robust 2F engines, they can REALLY take a beating...
no apology needed.
 
So...you think I could pick up a cheap gasser and put a diesel in it for less?
Details, man...Give me some details!
Anybody know of anyplace around here that would do the swap? What are the typical costs?
 
Well if you have a pro do it, no, it won't be less. The labor will be $$$. All I'm saying is when one of these pops up it seems like such a novelty that it might bring in $$$, but really you should be aware of all the options to put that price in perspective. It's a caution against impulse buying AND a way of thinking about so many other possibilities. My favorite would be a 13BT+H55F into an FJ60 from Arizona.

I looked at the ebay auction and it does seem nice. Wheels aren't stock--question is why? if everything else is so well maintained... probably nothing. Low kms are great. Relatively unmolested. The auction states "South American" ambassador--not the country. Do you know which country? Do you know if a Toyota dealer did the engine swap? Paint job not good.

I dunno, I wouldn't pay $14000 for it. Speaking from experience, those of us who have gone to the trouble and cost of importing diesels often think they are worth more than they are...

Let's see where the auction goes...
 
Diescipel said:
I also second Sandcruiser re: 80 series. There is nothing remarkable about the 60 series in my book. Solid, but not (yet) the classic 40 series, so if you have the chance to upgrade to an 80 series there's no reason not to in my book.


B
Click to expand...

60's have lots of character... whereas 80's do not stand out in a parking lots nowadays. They all look similar.

I like the "classic" look of a 60. They are a classic already.

I too like the idea of an arizona FJ60 converted to a diesel.

There stil are some nice Canadian cruisers tho, keep your eyes out for one. Do the importiing thing if you want.

But the 14k for a clean HJ60 is not that bad. IMOP. Title is everything for you guys.

Martin always remember how many more options we have up here. Price is always supply and demand. Not value. Our 15yr law changes the prices quite a bit.
 
GregFrench said:
So...you think I could pick up a cheap gasser and put a diesel in it for less?
Details, man...Give me some details!
Anybody know of anyplace around here that would do the swap? What are the typical costs?
Click to expand...

That depends very much on your skills, equipment and time.
Let me try a conservative estimate:
rust free truck (takes time to find): 5k
good diesel engine (2H, 12HT, 13BT): 5k if you get lucky, probably more like 7k with tranny and transfer
relays, alternator/vac pump, compressor, depending on what comes with the engine: 1k
wiring, changing the dash: .5k
you are up at 14k easily. and I did not count a second of work, and I am assuming everything else on the 5k truck is fine, which is unlikely.

I doubt you get away with 14k.

People like to throw these statements around-change it to a diesel for 5k-buy a diesel engine for 2k and do the swap-throw in a 1HZ, 1HDT, 12HT, 13BT for x amount-usually they are off by a factor of 2 to 3.

good luck,
Jan
 
whoa whoa WHOA!
let's keep in mind.... I drive an HJ60. Bought here in Central America.
1st: S.A. or C.A. rigs aren't necessarily stripped down. Heck, I've got an h41. Whatchoogot? :)
But seriously, the rigs often do have peculiarities. Mine came with 4 wheel drum brakes (really. I swear).
But I got intermittant rear wipers.
I also got non-US mirrors. Then again, it is an 88. But I've still got round headlights.

You could buy, in Costa Rica, a VERY clean hj60 with high-roof, h55f, sliding rear windows, clutch booster, rear- A/C system and PTO winch for about $12,000.
driving up to the USA would cost you about $1,000 in fuel (yes, I've done it. I spent $1,000 on gasoline for an fj60 in 2003-ish). Another couple hundred in lodging and border fees
I can't speak intelligently to the cost of importing, but there must be many ways to approach that situation, of varying cost and legality.
 
quote" my attitude on the situation is if you don't want to pay the price then look elsewhere. if i had a truck up for sale for $14,000 and someone offered me $10,000, not only would i turn it down i would also not entertain any offer from that individual after that. a offer of 72% of the asking price is an insult plain and simple." quote

sorry but i have to dissagree with you on this one especialy if the asking price is felt by the buyer to be 25 % above the fair market value of the vehicle , the door has to swing both ways ,

i have been doing tons and tons of searching for either a new hj60 or bj60 over the last month so i feel i am up to date on current prices at leat here on the wet coast .

i have looked at at least 5 very clean hj - bj 60's that have been under 10 grand way under , 3 of these guys have been calling me back begging me to make them an offer , one of the guys original price was $ 16,000 i told him i thought it was too high and declined to even make him an offer he phoned me back a couple of days later and said he would entertain offers around the $10,000 mark thats a 40% price difference , another seller has also dropped his price from $14,000 to $11,000 and that was with out me mentioning any thing they also invited me to make an offer , ANY OFFER , as well several of the people selling these croozers have recieved " profesional " biased oppions from users of this bulletin board telling them they could get x amount of dollars from thier trucks .

kevin
 
25% above fair market value...
interesting since you are comparing a legally titled HJ60 in the states with a CND HJ60 in Canada...

here is an idea, buy one of the CND HJ60 and sell it to Greg for $10,000 USD (in the same shape as the one in the ebay ad) with a guaranteed title in the states and shipped to the southeast corner of the states. (this is what you are saying can be done)

as far as i am concerned all is "hot air" till you have done the legwork.



as for insulted about an offer of 25% below asking price... yes, i would be, i know what my units are worth on the CND market and i have buyers that pay my prices. for you to call up and offer me $24,000 for a cruiser i am selling at $32,000 i know i would take note of your number and hang up. very simple. i do not have time for these kinds of people, in most cases they are not satisfied even after scoring a rediculiously good deal.

also, if a seller is desperate to sell a unit then it becomes a buyers market. if the buyer is not in any hurry at all then it is a sellers market. there will be those that will pay extra for peace of mind and those that are only out to save a buck even if it costs them more in the long run.

the truck in question is not a run of the mill HJ60 and it seems the seller has checked out the market and is confident in his sale. good for him.

cheers
 
I agree, it is not run of the mill, it is less than run of the mill. It is not an HJ60, but an FJ60 of Latin American origins with a lot of unknowns in its history, with a new drivetrain swapped in. If it were an unmolested true HJ60 with a documented service history that is in fact this clean and has the low kms, then it might fetch over $10,000 USD. But it's not. Don't get me wrong I would love to have it, but not for $14000.

Folks have got to realize that importing is just like building or upgrading your cruiser--you cannot expect to make back the money you put into it.

I would like to think my BJ42 is worth $14000. Hell, if somebody offered me that they might just get it. But I really don't think I would even get back the $8300 purchase price + $600 customs/RI fees + $200 plane ticket + $100 fuel + $500 reg. and transfer tax fees that I put into it, not to mention new doors, new suspension, etc. etc.. So it's a nice rig, I love it, and it doesn't make sense to sell it unless I were to jack up the price to make it worth my while, which I believe is what is happening with this (F)HJ60.

I believe that some of us, including myself, are invested personally and financially in believing these rigs are worth more than they are.

The benefits of doing a swap yourself are that you can build the exact vehicle you want--this is one of the biggest reasons I love cruisers--you can build the perfect beast. It will cost more time and money in the end, but you know the vehicle inside and out and you have exactly what you want.

Anybody know what Stickboy's final total $$$ were for his 1/2 cut BJ74 13BT+H55F swap into his FJ60? It's not in the thread.

Again, the market will determine the value of this vehicle, so let's watch where the auction goes. Otherwise I just think we are yanking each other's chains. EDIT: Oh crap, it's over $10k. I may have to eat some crow:censor:

As always IMHO and .02.

B
 
Last edited:
Diescipel said:
Again, the market will determine the value of this vehicle, so let's watch where the auction goes. Otherwise I just think we are yanking each other's chains. EDIT: Oh crap, it's over $10k. I may have to eat some crow:censor:

As always IMHO and .02.

B
Click to expand...
LOL!! now that is funny, in the end it is the market that sets the prices not what we "feel" is fair. there are many trucks sold at the Japanese auctions for HUGE amounts that i just shake my head at. peices of pure crap that sell for twice what i would pay... some uninformed bidder is getting caught up in the bid or doesn't know what the true shape of the truck is...

i agree it is a molested HJ60 but if the swap is clean and the truck inspects well then it is worth the money to the right person... woudl i pay $14,000 for it? no but then i can get trucks into Canada that are not allowed into the states...

cheers and peace
 
crushers said:
LOL!! now that is funny, in the end it is the market that sets the prices not what we "feel" is fair. there are many trucks sold at the Japanese auctions for HUGE amounts that i just shake my head at. peices of pure crap that sell for twice what i would pay... some uninformed bidder is getting caught up in the bid or doesn't know what the true shape of the truck is....
Click to expand...

That's what I'm afraid will happen with this. I don't think this is a piece of crap, but I don't think the seller should be expecting to get back what he put into it, or more.

crushers said:
i agree it is a molested HJ60 but if the swap is clean and the truck inspects well then it is worth the money to the right person... woudl i pay $14,000 for it? no but then i can get trucks into Canada that are not allowed into the states...
Click to expand...

Do you HAVE TO REMIND US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:grinpimp:

Cheers Wayne,
B
 
Last edited:
toynut said:
selling these croozers have recieved " profesional " biased oppions from users of this bulletin board telling them they could get x amount of dollars from thier trucks .

kevin
Click to expand...

Advice given on a board is just someones opinion, and only worth the time it takes to spit it out.

While I too have said I think something is worth this or that, it is just an opinion.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page

Back
Top Bottom