Help: 2017 lx570 or Lc?

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I might be picking up 2017 lx570 30k miles. Any tips of ideas since i really want Lc cant find a cert pre owned. Im planning to use it as long trips since i have an 80 for off road and 100 for my wife. Wonder if what lx570 or LC will have a limited production as far as colors, spec etc.
Thanks in advance
 
I literally had the same conflict a few weeks ago. Had both a 16 LC & 16 LX in the budget (and within driving distance). Ended up with the certified LC, but damn the LX was sweet too! As everyone told me, there's no real wrong choice.

In my newbie and limited opinion, the LX is more loaded and 'paved road' nice while the LC has more aftermarket support to build it easier for off pavement.
 
The LX is a notch better than the LC on the comfort side since you mentioned you will be using it for road trips. You will enjoy it’s plush ride. And on a turn of knob, you can go sport mode and on the fly reduce body roll during tight or long sweeping turns -that’s the beauty of AHC. Both 8-speed at that year, I believe the LX is tuned more for both torque and whp if I’m not mistaken than the LC.
 
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Both 8-speed at that year, I believe the LX is tuned more for both torque and whp if I’m not mistaken than the LC.
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There is basically no difference.

LC: 381 hp, 401 lb-ft, 5815 lb (3 row)
LX: 383 hp, 403 lb-ft, 6,000 lb (3 row)

The extra weight of LX is more than the tiny amount of extra power, so performance will be slightly less than the LC.
 
It’s a tough choice. I’m not a big fan of the 2016+ LX front end but I can appreciate the AHC and other goodies. I eventually settled for a 2015 LX with its more understated (albeit dated) exterior. I came from another lexus with the stupid mouse control on the radio so that was another reason why the 2015 was an easy choice for me.
In the 6 months since I bought the LX i have noticed that 2016 LC prices have come down a fair bit so if I were to do it again now I may have leaned towards a 2016 LC. I love AHC but would rather sacrifice that and come out to a car I can actually stare in the face every morning. 👀
 
My three issues for not going the LX route was the front-end, stupid mouse pad and it takes premium fuel which drove me nuts sense it’s basically the exact same engine in the LC. Ok, a bonus fourth is that every single LX570 at my kids school are driven by Moms...it makes sense, as it’s an uber safe and comfortable suv for the family. My family loves the LC and prefers the LC. They also hate the front end LX
 
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My pick.......if ONLY for highway use, then LX570. Quieter. Better audio. More luxurious inside. The only nitpicks are the exterior design (i personally don’t mind it at all) and the stupid mouse interface.
 
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My three issues for not going the LX route was the front-end, stupid mouse pad and it takes premium fuel which drove me nuts sense it’s basically the exact same engine in the LC. Ok, a bonus fourth is that every single LX570 at my kids school are driven by Moms...it makes sense, as it’s an uber safe and comfortable suv for the family. My family loves the LC and prefers the LC. They also hate the front end LX
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The mouse pad interface for the infotainment system is egregiously bad. I can’t understand why Lexus has been sticking with it for so long.
 
I’m one of those guys who has to have a Land Cruiser even if the Lexus is virtually the same thing. #LC4LIFE
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I would love to have the LX interior, but as well went LC twice (16 and now 20) because I cannot stand the front end of LX, premium gas requirement and potential costs of suspension repair if things go wrong. I didn't hear any AHC problem on LX yet, but heard on LS. As well when test drove LC felt more sporty especially on turns (KDSS works better for me). If you buying used, probably not a difference as probably both are in the same price range, but LC holds value better which as well important to me since bought both of them new. After fours years of driving I have traded in the 16 for 20 with just writing $20K check. Pretty much yearly cost of driving equal to a lease of 4Runner which is amazing.
 
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If you want objectively more features, handling, comfort, capability, and clearance stock out of the box, the "LX trim" of the 200-series is it. Technical off-roading is childs play for the 200-series in general, but you can do it all stock as it has 3" lift already built in.


With very minor mods of AHC, you can arguably have more payload, more clearance, and more reliability than any aftermarket suspension brings to a 200-series. While never having to trade any handling or comfort. Fits bigger tires than the LC. Just as modifiable as the LC.

3-4" of AHC lift (constant height without sag from payload) couldn't be easier with a 10mm wrench
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Tow and carry more with better payload handling, comfort, and composure
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Stock vs stock...better handling? Clearance? Capability? Payload?

Car & Driver pretty much states that both are not good at handling. Track numbers are same.

Clearance = LC has better angles. Even when LX is at its highest, it is not better than LC. And LC has the angles no matter what speed you’re in...no worry about having to change suspension setting.

Capability = better angles with LC. Easier to fit tires on stock rims. Sliders install on LC is easy without having to cut the rock panel like on LX! No worry about damaging AHC globes off-road.

Payload = LC has more towing capacity and higher payload. (But LX does have self-leveling, which is nice.)

Just talking stock vs. stock. BUT, LX570 interior is just sumptuous! Beautiful IMHO.
 
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Madtiger said:
Stock vs stock...better handling? Clearance? Capability? Payload?

Car & Driver pretty much states that both are not good at handling. Track numbers are same.

Clearance = LC has better angles. Even when LX is at its highest, it is not better than LC. And LC has the angles no matter what speed you’re in...no worry about having to change suspension setting.

Capability = better angles with LC. Easier to fit tires on stock rims. Sliders install on LC is easy without having to cut the rock panel like on LX! No worry about damaging AHC globes off-road.

Payload = LC has more towing capacity and higher payload. (But LX does have self-leveling, which is nice.)

Just talking stock vs. stock. BUT, LX570 interior is just sumptuous! Beautiful IMHO.
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Let's not dismiss better handling just because both suck. Better is better. As an aggressive sports car driver, the LX handling is solid for a 6000lb body on frame beast. As an example, think back to every time you stab the brakes and the LC takes a big brake-dive lurch. The LX doesn't do that with its brake anti-dive function.

Angles, let's dig a bit deeper. The early LX model years had better angles in every way. Breakout the 10mm wrench for an AHC sensor lift and get even better angles free.
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Payload - it's not just about self leveling. It's about payload handling and control. The LC has higher stock tow capacity numbers on account of its legal chassis GVWR and being lighter as a result of less standard features. The LX is better composed when really laden on account of its adaptable (spring rate and damping) suspension. It will handle well above its rated capacities as I've been to 2000lb payload on extended vacations with my travel trailer and 6x occupants with comfort and control. Or 1600lbs in the boot with no suspension sag.
 
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Pretty much everyone on this forum has already voted with their wallet. It's human nature to justify whatever you purchased. There really is no "better" option to me. If you are willing to put in the time, money and effort both are equally capable.
My choice really came down to wanting the Land Cruiser name. The history of the brand and all that nebulous stuff Instead of an LX570 which is "just like a Land Cruiser".
 
My LC officially is 32 approach angle, 24 departure.

Car and driver tested both handling. Same test results. Similar braking. No advantage.

As for doing things above payload rated, I don’t know and I certainly would not do that. But we can only compare OFFICIAL specs.

One can argue that AHC is also less reliable and more maintenance cost. See recent threads about AHC issues and how much it is to repair!
 
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