It would be great for me if it was as plug and play as possible, but I can do whatever people think is best.
Group Buy: Innovative Wiring turn/marker harness (single function to dual function) (1 Viewer)
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BR, can you post a picture on the back of the lens where the wire plugs into?
Thanks
Stu
Okay, more pics. As always, please let me know if these work or not. It's NO problem to take and upload pics. I have kids, a photo website account, and the nearest grandparents live 1000 miles away. So, I'm perfectly set up for photo stuff. Again, these will link out and can be zoomed in quite a bit. That's not even close to the original file size too.
Here's the link to the photo gallery. This will have the full size option on it.
ARB Light housing pics - tuckerzoo's Photos
Here's the link to the photo gallery. This will have the full size option on it.
ARB Light housing pics - tuckerzoo's Photos
Can you add me to the list when this becomes available. Would like to add this feature to my 80.
Thank BR... I think a pigtail will make it easy to connect the ARB harness.
Primer7, will do
Stu
Primer7, will do
Stu
I misunderstood then...Today there is a wedge bulb in the side markers and I thought the new way would use a 1156 or 1156A bulb?
With the ARB lights, it depended on how you hooked them up to determine what bulb to use. Connected to be blinkers only you could get away with the larger bulb but if you wired them up as blinkers and markers, the suggestion was to downsize the bulb to avoid excessive heat melting the lense.
IMO the best approach would be to offer the pigtail with either an ARB compatible connector on the end or connector ends on the pigtail that could reuse the ARB nylon connector.
I think you undersand now that with the ARB lights you get two sections of wiring. One section connects to the lights themselves and has a nylon connector that installs on the end of the lights (you thread the wiring through the ARB light housing and then attach the connector). The other section also has a nylon connector with the other ends getting scotch locked to the OEM harness. If you ever need to pull/replace the ARB lights, the nylon connectors in between the two wire segments allow this to be done easily.
So if a pigtail could come off the new harness with either the connector installed, or we reuse the existing ARB connector which I think we can, that would make it super simple to install.
The pigtail section...how would it be wired? Will it be wired so the ARB lights are just marker lights or will it be wired so they are marker and blinkers? Or would it be something that Gary can make either way?
Today my ARBs are both marker lights and blinkers...After this mod, I'm not sure there would be my value in them also being blinkers. Three blinkers might be overkill
Ebag and Otamiway/Stu,
Can you please remove me from the list. I am pretty sure somebody will be able to replace my position. I have decided to go a different route on my lights.
Hope you are okay Ebag and thanks for continuing this Stu.
Thank you!
Can you please remove me from the list. I am pretty sure somebody will be able to replace my position. I have decided to go a different route on my lights.
Hope you are okay Ebag and thanks for continuing this Stu.
Thank you!
Corsair23, I misunderstood..... We replace the wedge bulb with the 1157. so yes it would be a hotter bulb. I am not concerned about running that bulb in there. Many have done so without issue.
IMO the best approach would be to offer the pigtail with either an ARB compatible connector on the end or connector ends on the pigtail that could reuse the ARB nylon connector.
So if a pigtail could come off the new harness with either the connector installed, or we reuse the existing ARB connector which I think we can, that would make it super simple to install.
The pigtail section...how would it be wired? Will it be wired so the ARB lights are just marker lights or will it be wired so they are marker and blinkers? Or would it be something that Gary can make either way?
Today my ARBs are both marker lights and blinkers...After this mod, I'm not sure there would be my value in them also being blinkers. Three blinkers might be overkill
I can ask him to build it both ways.
How do you have yours wired today? Correct me if i am wrong, but doesn't the ARB come with a single filament bulb??
Can you share some pictures?
I like the idea of have a ARB compatible connector on the end.
Thanks
Stu
I apologise if this has been mentioned but my question is if you are combining the park and indicator light how does this work with a clear lense if you want a white park and amber indicator ?
Agree on the ARB link, Tks
Agree on the ARB link, Tks
For clear lens you use 1157NA. Its an amber bulb.
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it seems the US trucks come with indicator in the corner my JDM truck has park there , this combined function is interesting as i would prefer it does the bulb perform a duel function as in white ligtht and amber flicker
I thought the some of the lexus had this combined but i could be wrong.
I thought the some of the lexus had this combined but i could be wrong.
Stu,
I don't have any pictures but there are numerous threads on MUD that should help. I don't recall which thread I followed way back when so others might have other threads they can link to but here is one thread:
https://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/151063-arb-disco-mod-vid.html
The ARB lights come with a single filament bulb. As I recall, the normal way of hooking up the lights is so that they just blink. The alternate way is to connect them up so they are marker lights AND will blink (referred to as the disco mod because when the lights blink depends if your OEM marker lights are on or off). When doing this mod you install a lower power bulb to avoid melting the lenses.
Hopefully someone less "electrically challenged" than myself might be able to draw up schematics of the normal and alternate ways of connecting up the ARBs.
It might be easier on Gary though to just wire up the pigtail for the ARB lights one way and call it good. Reading through the thread it seems most folks interested in the ARB version of the harness don't want them to blink...
I'm getting more confused.
1. I thought the point of these wires was for all the lights to both come on as parking lights AND blink as turn signals.
2. I have an ARB bumper and I would like those lights to blink as turn signals with the other two lights on each side. I thought this would give us 6 parking lights and 6 turn signals.
3. I would like it if all blinkers blinked at the same time.
My #1 priority is to get my ARB lights installed finally, with the clear covers, and to get my clear corner and blinkers installed, when they get here. The wiring harness which turns all 6 into dual function parking/blinkers is just the cherry on top. I like the safety of having all 6 lights blinking.
1. I thought the point of these wires was for all the lights to both come on as parking lights AND blink as turn signals.
2. I have an ARB bumper and I would like those lights to blink as turn signals with the other two lights on each side. I thought this would give us 6 parking lights and 6 turn signals.
3. I would like it if all blinkers blinked at the same time.
My #1 priority is to get my ARB lights installed finally, with the clear covers, and to get my clear corner and blinkers installed, when they get here. The wiring harness which turns all 6 into dual function parking/blinkers is just the cherry on top. I like the safety of having all 6 lights blinking.
BR, because the ARB is a single filament bulb I don't think you can have it blink and work as a park light. Corsair mentioned the "Disco" bulb that I am not familiar with.
As is stand now you will have 6 blink with 4 park (2 original signal + 2 original markers)
Guys I am OOT for work so I won't get the final harness until Sunday.
I will post more updates as well as start with the ARB solution.
Cheers
Stu
As it stands now you will have 6 blink with 4 park (2 original signal + 2 original markers)
Cheers
Stu
Ah, okay. Hey, that's cool! I'm still in. I was just confused by some of the exchanges. 4 park and 6 blink is fine with me.
Thanks again Stu!
Corsair23, I sent the information over to Gary to see if he can wire it up according to the information above.
Stu
Holy "death by committee!"
First it was "how is this different than the swap mod," then some hope of an elegant solution, now everyone's confused.
In the meantime, I've switched my lamps back to their factory locations and am more curious about side markers. Cutting a hole in fender is a lot more simple than following this progress.
First it was "how is this different than the swap mod," then some hope of an elegant solution, now everyone's confused.
In the meantime, I've switched my lamps back to their factory locations and am more curious about side markers. Cutting a hole in fender is a lot more simple than following this progress.
ToyotaDon
I am here
BR, because the ARB is a single filament bulb I don't think you can have it blink and work as a park light. Corsair mentioned the "Disco" bulb that I am not familiar with.
As is stand now you will have 6 blink with 4 park (2 original signal + 2 original markers)
Guys I am OOT for work so I won't get the final harness until Sunday.
I will post more updates as well as start with the ARB solution.
Cheers
Stu
It's called a "Disco" mod because that's what Land Rover does. It's also done by GM and other domestic manufacturers.
Basically, you hook up the parking lights to one side of the bulb and the turn signal to the other. Depending on the way the rest of the circuit is wired, the parking lights will be grounded through the turn signal circuit. When you turn on the turn signal, the ground becomes power and no current can flow either direction, turning off the bulb. It then blinks opposite (alternate pattern) of the other turn signal bulbs.
Hopefully that wasn't too confusing.
