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Gears vs. Nomad Valve Body with TC lockup.....?
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How much benefit would you get just by installing the lockup torque converter kit while not towing or carrying heavy load?
Is the harness plug and play? I seen a few YouTube install and it seems we need to cut and solder the wire.
Is the harness plug and play? I seen a few YouTube install and it seems we need to cut and solder the wire.
TCC will help a lot with heat, but may still hunt. I dont know if they are plug and play yet as I was the prototype
Pretty sure the Nomad valve body is nothing special. You can get the same shift kit and install it yourself for far less than what they charge. You're basically just paying them to do the work. A750, A760, A761, AB60, A960 - TransGo - https://transgo.com/products/a750e/
For superchargers, forget URD... the intercooler is not in a great place for an off-roader, and the mounting location of the SC makes maintenace suck. Look into Elate or Bullet. Eaton base blowers, TRD style mounting. Elate has a really cool intercooler that is integral to the supercharger mount. ELATE LX470 2UZ FDFI1900 INTERCOOLED SUPERCHARGER KIT - ELATE MFG. - PERFORMANCE SUPERCHARGER SYSTEMS - https://elatemfg.com/product/elate-lx470-fdfi1900-intercooled-supercharger-kit/
For superchargers, forget URD... the intercooler is not in a great place for an off-roader, and the mounting location of the SC makes maintenace suck. Look into Elate or Bullet. Eaton base blowers, TRD style mounting. Elate has a really cool intercooler that is integral to the supercharger mount. ELATE LX470 2UZ FDFI1900 INTERCOOLED SUPERCHARGER KIT - ELATE MFG. - PERFORMANCE SUPERCHARGER SYSTEMS - https://elatemfg.com/product/elate-lx470-fdfi1900-intercooled-supercharger-kit/
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Awesome. I don’t see prices on those kits. Does it require each of those kits individually purchased? I don’t mind doing some mods on my own.
I got ahold of one of the old TRD superchargers with the 9/10th injectors. Not the most efficient design, but decent and bolt-on.
I'm not sure that's the same kit as a Nomad. It appears to be reaming out the solenoid bores to reduce leakage and address transmission codes and fixing other worn parts. I'm not sure that would make any noticeable differences. a well-functioning stock valve body as it appears to only be addressing transmission wear and getting back to stock function.
I have the Nomad valve body and it shifts drastically better than the stock transmission (my stock transmission had no issues). It's a re-engineered valve body with a different valve body plate than the OEM transmission, in addition to providing higher line pressure over stock (which that Transgo kit isn't advertised as doing). Probably my favorite mod on the rig - or maybe just behind long tube headers - and I'm not sure I would be happy driving a rig with a stock transmission after getting used to the Nomad.
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That’s sort of what I was thinking after reading their info. It doesn’t seem to have upgraded components.
Has anyone heard of anyone using the IPT valve body?
Toyota A750E | A750F | A760E | A761E Modified Valve body
Modified valve body for improved shift performance in your Toyota 750 series transmission.
www.importperformancetrans.com
Ive never felt the need to replace, rebuild, or think too much about the valve body. 313k miles. Would crisper shifts be nice? Maybe. Worth it unless I have to drop the pan anyway? Doubtful.
IPT looks like the same thing as Nomad just cheaper and with a better description of what they are actually offering. Again, same s*** you can DIY; They're just rebuilding your valve body with one of several kits, nothing more.
What issues are you having? Why do you feel the need to do this? I'd start there and then talk to both companies about the options.
IPT looks like the same thing as Nomad just cheaper and with a better description of what they are actually offering. Again, same s*** you can DIY; They're just rebuilding your valve body with one of several kits, nothing more.
What issues are you having? Why do you feel the need to do this? I'd start there and then talk to both companies about the options.
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Transgo has several kits available, and one of them is a regulator pressure boost valve kit. TransGo - A750-BOOST - A750 Pressure Regulator Boost Valve Kit - https://transgo.com/product-details/a750-boost-valve/
Note that the Transgo shift kit comes with drillbits and also modifies the stock valve body. "Re-engineering" is a misleading term. There is reason they take your core back.
I'm not saying Nomad uses the exact Transgo kit(s), as there are other manufacturers for these... but they aren't doing anything special. It's just a combination of rebuilding/modifying your valve body with products available to you directly through other vendors.
More examples; A750E, A750F: Oregon Performance Transmission - https://www.oregonperformancetransmission.com/category/toyota-a750-a750e-a750f-shift-kits.html?srsltid=AfmBOoqpBHTn9isyJ2LFu0lGfiemDYySzxJcS-3wC70iJFDWIcOc6plK
I'm sure the difference is noticable, but keep in mind it would also be noticeable going form a high mileage transmission to a brand new one from Toyota.
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Actually the Nomad VB uses a non-OEM valve body plate which significantly changes how fluid is pumped around the transmission. That's how they bump line pressure above stock and increase clamping force. The valve body plate is a complex part, revising it from stock is indeed a process of re-engineering. Neither the Transgo or Sonnax kits that were linked do that - both keep the OEM valve body plate; both kits also clearly state they are for returning a worn transmission to stock-like performance, not going beyond stock.
So, the Nomad uses different and more parts and will perform differently than a new stock transmission or a old stock transmission with the Transgo/Sonnax parts. The difference is the valve body plate, plus whatever other mods they have in there.
I've personally had my stock A750F, ridden in nearly-new stock A750F rigs in 5th gen 4Runners, and put the Nomad in my rig. It was a drastic performance improvement, particularly while towing, where it gave around a 10-15% increase in fuel economy. The VB also allows the TC clutch to be locked in 1st gear which is useful when going up/down mountain passes in the West.
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If it was a non-oem valve body they would not have a core charge. It’s a modified OEM assembly. A custom valve body would be thousands of dollars more.
Here is an A750 diagram. There is no ‘plate’ like you’d find in older Ford/etc transmissions.
This link alos details all the modification and repair options available.
You’re getting crisper shifts from a modified pressure valve.
I’m not knocking your purchase. To be fair, I wouldn’t personally attempt this myself. But a company called ‘wholesale transmissions’ is not doing custom work…
Toyota/Lexus A750E/F Valve Body Layout
Sonnax valve body diagram for A750E, A750F units. View recommended parts for quality repairs of common transmission problems quickly and easily.
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I stand corrected that the OEM valve body does not have a plate.If it was a non-oem valve they would not have a core charge. It’s a modified OEM assembly.
Here is an A750 diagram. There is no ‘plate’ like you’d find in older Ford/etc transmissions.
Toyota/Lexus A750E/F Valve Body Layout
Sonnax valve body diagram for A750E, A750F units. View recommended parts for quality repairs of common transmission problems quickly and easily.www.sonnax.com
However, the Nomad VB most definitely does have a valve body plate. I presumed that because the Nomad had it that my OEM VB must have one to.
Your can see it in the photo of the plate below on my valve body - it's the metal tab on the lower right that says "Wholesale". It goes between the two halves of the valve body and you can see it protruding past the halves on the left side as well. That must be one of the ways they modify flow to bump line pressures and make it shift nice and firm/crisp, plus whatever else they do. Regardless, that isn't a mod you get with the Sonnax/Transgo/IPT kits where seem to be fixing worn solenoid bores and other parts back to stock.
EDIT: Found one of the Nomad in my rig. You can also see the plate as circled in red. I didn't take the VB apart so I'm unsure how far this plate extends, but it's definitely in there.
Have you installed or ridden in a vehicle with a Nomad previously? They aren't exactly common in the US as Cruiser Brothers in CA is the only distributor they have. Frankly, it's an expensive enough mod that I'd never recommend it to anyone who isn't committed to the rig and plans to keep it for a long time anyway.
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That makes more sense, thanks for clarifying. So they're effectively adding a plate in between the OEM valve body upper and lower portions.
I’m not having actual performance issues. I do have some things that I’d like to correct. The GX is a beast at sea level, but is more effected by altitude than any other vehicle I’ve ever owned. Even before I added bolt-on weight, it did a lot of “gear finding” in the mountains at altitude. After adding heavy off-road steel bumpers, heavy steel sliders, a winch, other types of gear, and larger tires … it does it quite a bit more. I also carry quite a bit of weight frequently and tow trailers. It would be nice and probably more fuel efficient to have stronger and sharper shifts. I also plan to install my TRD supercharger at some point.
Appears so. Next time I drop the pan I'll see if it's a full plate or if it's just restricted to one side of it.
You would love a Nomad with that kind of driving. The OEM trans shifting and gear hunting in these rigs really sucks. They are tuned for Karen's comfort on her drive to Whole Foods, not for towing at altitude.
I think this is going on my “eventual to do” list, along with the (already acquired) supercharger, and a 2010+ 4Runner 8.2” rear diff with the eLocker. I just need to find one of those diff’s that isn’t being sold for its price in gold.
GX460 diffs are cheaper but require sway bar brackets to be added if you are non-KDSS. They just have the 3.91 ratio instead of 3.73. I'll go that route but with a 4.56 regear and Harrop elockers.
