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Thanks Tom, I’m also a little (maybe a lot) OCD and used almost the same steps as you outlined.I've done the procedure on two 100 series in the past month, both in conjunction with new rotors.
I'm a bit OCD, so I thoroughly clean everything.
Wipe all grease out of hub, clean hub in parts washer, let dry.
Soak bearings in diesel, then thoroughly clean with brake cleaner, let dry.
Check bearings for wear (best to compare to brand new bearings).
If they aren't Koyo or Timken, I suggest replacing.
Use a bearing packer to pack the bearings (they are cheap...).
I use the grease leftover from the bearing packer to fill the inside of the hub (1/3 to 1/2 full).
I then follow the procedure below, which I believe is the FSM procedure, or pretty close to it.
I've reused all bearings in the last 2 jobs and the Torque specs below have put me between 10 and 11 Lbs for the final preload range for all 4 hubs.
I've read that rigs with more weight / bigger wheel and tire combos should be closer to the 15 Lbs for the final preload.
Note: When you Install the Claw Washer, if the Outer Side is Not Clean (No Grease), your Torque will be Much Higher.
- Install Inner Bearing and Oil Seal. Coat the lip of the Oil Seal with Grease. Use a 3/4" x 8” x 8” piece of clean wood and a hammer to evenly push / drive the new oil seal into place.
- Install Axle Hub to Steering Knuckle. It should slide right in and fit squarely
- Install the Outer Bearing. Wipe All Grease off of the Threads of the Steering Knuckle.
- Install the Claw Washer. The Outer Side Must be Clean (No Grease).
- Install the Adjusting Nut. Torque to 43 Ft Lbs.
- Rotate the Axle Hub (Forward Rotation) several times to settle down the bearings.
- Loosen the Adjusting Nut until it can be turned by hand.
*** Retighten the Adjusting Nut. Torque to 15 Ft Lbs.
- Rotate the Axle Hub (Forward Rotation) several times to settle down the bearings.
- Using a Spring Gauge, measure the Preload of one of the Wheel Lugs in the 12 O’clock Position. The Preload should be between 5 and 8 Lbs. Take several measurements, each time Rotating the Axle Hub 1 Full Rotation (Forward).
- If the Preload is Not between 5 and 8 Lbs, adjust the Torque of the Adjusting Nut Accordingly.
- Install Lock Washer and the Locking Nut. Torque to 47 Ft Lbs.
- Rotate the Axle Hub (Forward Rotation) several times to settle down the bearings.
- Using a Spring Gauge, measure the Preload. The Preload should be between 8 and 15 lbs. Take several measurements, each time Rotating the Axle Hub 1 Full Rotation (Forward). If not within the specified range, restart procedure at ***, adjusting the Torque in the 1st step accordingly.
- Secure the Locking Nut by bending one of the Lock Washer teeth inward and another tooth outward.
Good luck.
Tom
SA Section of FSM.Thanks Tom, I’m also a little (maybe a lot) OCD and used almost the same steps as you outlined.
I may have had grease on the face of the claw washer tho, causing my higher torque numbers.
But, I’m still not clear on where these bearing resistance (preload) fish scale values are coming from. I don’t see anything in the FSM stating 9.5-15 lbs or the 5-8lbs initial values you mentioned. Where did the 9.5-15 lbs come from? Every video and all the discussion here states that range but I’m not understanding. My OCD is only surpassed by my thick-head.
Appreciate your guidance and insight.
Holy crap - that is wild. My FSM for a 1999 LX has very different numbers.
Trick here; Is to fill cavity to a point, where grease is just over edge of roller bearings. That is so, centrifugal force grease pushes out of hub cavity into roller bearings. To little grease in wheel hub cavity, and centrifugal force pushes/slings grease out of bearings. Which, bearings would then burn up, from lack of grease.I've done the procedure on two 100 series in the past month, both in conjunction with new rotors.
I'm a bit OCD, so I thoroughly clean everything.
Wipe all grease out of hub, clean hub in parts washer, let dry.
Soak bearings in diesel, then thoroughly clean with brake cleaner, let dry.
Check bearings for wear (best to compare to brand new bearings).
If they aren't Koyo or Timken, I suggest replacing.
Use a bearing packer to pack the bearings (they are cheap...).
I use the grease leftover from the bearing packer to fill the inside of the hub (1/3 to 1/2 full).
Note: Keep bearings with their respective races, as they come out of wheel hub. Bearings and race, are match and seat/break-in together. To this end; I mark DS wheel hub, with a single punch mark, next to drilled balance dimples. Which tells me, it's BK1 (DS wheel hub). I keep bearings in container, marked with either #1 (DS) and other #2 (PS).I then follow the procedure below, which I believe is the FSM procedure, or pretty close to it.
I've reused all bearings in the last 2 jobs and the Torque specs below have put me between 10 and 11 Lbs for the final preload range for all 4 hubs.
Note: Make sure, claw washer in good condition. If it is scored/grooved, on one side. Replace, or install scored side out, smooth/good side in against bearing. The key/tab, must be in perfect condition. Protruding out it full length. If claw washers key/tab worn down, it may spin out of spindles key slot. Which will likely, damage spindles threads.I've read that rigs with more weight / bigger wheel and tire combos should be closer to the 15 Lbs for the final preload.
Note: When you Install the Claw Washer, if the Outer Side is Not Clean (No Grease), your Torque will be Much Higher.
Make very sure. The flat side of seal out. The side of seal with a raise, must be in against large bearing. Drive seal in, until squarely flush with back of wheel hub.- Install Inner Bearing and Oil Seal. Coat the lip of the Oil Seal with Grease. Use a 3/4" x 8” x 8” piece of clean wood and a hammer to evenly push / drive the new oil seal into place.
I like to place, small bearing in wheel hub, while on the bench. Then, place my thumbs on bearing, as I hold wheel hub in hands. Place the entire wheel hub assemble, on spindle in one smooth movement, pressing small/outer bearing in with thumbs..- Install Axle Hub to Steering Knuckle. It should slide right in and fit squarely
- Install the Outer Bearing. Wipe All Grease off of the Threads of the Steering Knuckle.
Actually it is better, to have grease on claw washer. Why: It reduce resistance of adjusting nut on it. To much resistance, and it turns claw washer. Putting to much pressure on claw washers tab/key. Which can damage the tab/keep.- Install the Claw Washer. The Outer Side Must be Clean (No Grease).
Correct typo: 5 to 8 lbs should read 9.5 to 15 lbs. I shoot for 12LB breakaway preload on stock rigs. 15lb on lifted heavy rigs.- Install the Adjusting Nut. Torque to 43 Ft Lbs.
- Rotate the Axle Hub (Forward Rotation) several times to settle down the bearings.
- Loosen the Adjusting Nut until it can be turned by hand.
*** Retighten the Adjusting Nut. Torque to 15 Ft Lbs.
- Rotate the Axle Hub (Forward Rotation) several times to settle down the bearings.
- Using a Spring Gauge, measure the Preload of one of the Wheel Lugs in the 12 O’clock Position. The Preload should be between 5 and 8 Lbs. Take several measurements, each time Rotating the Axle Hub 1 Full Rotation (Forward).
I grease lock washer also. Just like the claw washer. This helps reduce resistance, for locking nut. Which can damaged the tab/key, by turning lock washer. Never reuse lock washer. If one must reuse. It must have a perfect tab/key, and we must not re-bend any locking tab.- If the Preload is Not between 5 and 8 Lbs, adjust the Torque of the Adjusting Nut Accordingly.
- Install Lock Washer and the Locking Nut. Torque to 47 Ft Lbs.
Final points:- Rotate the Axle Hub (Forward Rotation) several times to settle down the bearings.
- Using a Spring Gauge, measure the Preload. The Preload should be between 8 and 15 lbs. Take several measurements, each time Rotating the Axle Hub 1 Full Rotation (Forward). If not within the specified range, restart procedure at ***, adjusting the Torque in the 1st step accordingly.
- Secure the Locking Nut by bending one of the Lock Washer teeth inward and another tooth outward.
Good luck.
Tom
Many thanks 2001LC! I’ve read many of your posts and comments on this procedure alone. Grateful that you don’t get tired of answering questions.Trick here; Is to fill cavity to a point, where grease is just over out edge of roller bearings. That is so, centrifugal force pushes grease into bearings. To little grease in wheel hub cavity, and centrifugal force pushes/slings grease out of bearings. Which bearings would then burn up.
But we also want a small air gap, between knuckles' spindle and the grease pack in cavity. Without this air gap, we hold in & transfer bearings heat, into spindle. Bearing will then run hot.
Note: Keep bearings with their respective races, as the come out of wheel hub. Bearings and race, are match and seat/break-in together. To this end; I mark DS wheel hub, with a single punch mark. Next to drilled balance dimples. Which tells me it's BK1. I keep bearings in container, marked with a a #1 and other #2.
Note: Mark sure, claw washer in good condition. If it is scored/grooved, on one side. Replace, or install scored side out, smooth/good side in against bearing. The key/tab, must be in perfect condition. Protruding out it full length. If it's key/tab worn down, it may spin out of spindles slot/keep. Which will damage spindles threads.
Make very sure. The flat side of seal out. The side of seal with a raise, must be in against large bearing. Drive seal in, until squarely flush with back of wheel hub.
I like to place small bearing in wheel hub, while on the bench. Then, place my thumbs on bearing, as I hold wheel hub in hands. Place the entire wheel hub assemble, on spindle in one smooth movement, pressing small/outer bearing in with thumbs..
Actually it is better, to have grease on claw washer. Why: It reduce resistance of adjusting nut on it. To much resistance, and it turns claw washer. Putting to much pressure on claw washers tab/key. Which can damage the tab/keep.
Correct typo: 5 to 8 lbs should read 9 to 15 lbs. I shoot for 12LB breakaway preload on stock rigs. 15lb on lifted heavy rigs.
I grease lock washer both side. Just like the claw washer. This helps reduce resistance, which can damaged the tab/key. Never reuse lock washer. If one must reuse. It must have a perfect tab/key, and we must not re-bend and locking tab.
Final points:
Lube axle bearing & brass bushing. Which will require settling grease, before installing the new hub flange snap ring.
Hook spring scale, on a lug nut stud. That is at top dead center (12 o-clock). Spin wheel hub in direction of travel, until stud at TDC. Never back up/reverse wheel hub, to get a stud to TDC.
Never use a glue/FPIG, on hub flange. Use a good gasket, new best.
Use a medium strength thread sealer, on hub flange studs threads. Or Replace the nuts with OEM, which have a thread sealer in their threads. Torque to 24ft-lbf
Replace hub flange snap ring. With proper size/thickness, so gap under .20mm. Never reuse hub flange snap ring.
Always replace grease cap, with new OEM.
Note: Temperature of grease/bearing/races/spindle will affect preload. Best is above 62F. The lower the temp, the low torque on adjusting nut, to get 12lb breakaway preload. At under ~40F, bearings will end up to loose.
Adjusting preload (pull on fish scale) is done with by the amount of torque we put on adjusting nut. The adjusting nut creates pressure on claw washer. Which claw washer transfers, adjusting nut torque/force/pressure to bearings.Hello 2001LC,
2 Points of Clarification.
1st Point.
There are 2 Preload Steps, correct?
Initial Preload (After Adjusting Nut is Torqued) and Final Preload (After Locking Nut is Torqued).
Initial Preload should be between 5 and 8 (this one you corrected, which IMO should not have been corrected).
Final Preload should be between 9.5 and 15 (I had stated 8 to 15, which came out of an earlier FSM. I'll update my earlier post).
We must remember here. Torque on adjusting nut, is not the goal. Starting Preload of wheel hub is the goal.2nd Point.
Honestly, I disagree with greasing the outside of the claw washer.
IMO, it's the reason why everyone's torquing the adjusting nut so high to get the right Preload values.
Same reason why anti-seize shouldn't be used on a mating surface of a fastener that requires a very specific torque.
Grease, just like anti-seize, lowers the coefficient of friction by an unknown value.
It's much easier to replicate preload and torque values with a non-greased "dry" claw washer.
You're potentially creating higher rotational pressure on the claw washer by torquing it greased to 30+ Ft Lbs vs 15 Ft Lbs dry.
This is true, that final value will be over 47ft-lbf. But not so much as to damage threads. Also FSM has us check preload, after torque. Which again, preload is the goal. I'll add:You'll have a similar issue if there's grease on the lock washer and lock nut.
If the FSM says the torque value should be 47 Ft Lbs, and the FSM assumes No Grease, and you grease the surface and torque the lock nut to 47 Ft Lbs, it is putting an additional unknown value of torque above 47 Ft Lbs on everything it touches (mating surface and threads).
This is the reason why sometimes fasters get broken or threads get stripped when using anti-seize and not reducing torque.
I've seen some of your other post. You sound like you do better work than most any shop. Kudos to you!To each their own, by I would not grease the outside of the claw washer, either nut, or the lock washer.
Notes: I don't reuse claw washers or lock washers.
If either nut is damaged (often a deep nick by someone using a chisel to remove), I replace it.
I check both nuts for minor damage / burrs and use a file if needed to clean them up.
I appreciate the conversation.
Tom
Engineer, cool. Please tell us, What does, the engineering indicate:I've been working on cars for 40+ years.
I also have an engineering degree from a top 10 engineering school, so yes, I know what I'm talking about.
So let's use a high percentage change from torque wrench reading. Say, 50% over torque reading of wrench, when lock washer lubed. Then 47ft-lbf lubed, would be ~70.5ft-lbf (47 x 1.50) compared to dry.Depending on the Anti Seize, torque is affected by anywhere from 15 to 40 percent.
Due to salt, North East mechanics use Anti Seize is certain situations, and good ones know how to use it (typically on threads, not on mating surfaces).
NLGI2 grease has a lower coefficient of friction than Anti Seize.
Therefore, torque may be affected by more than 40% if using NLGI2 grease.
40%+ is a lot.
Is this a typo?Many have been accidentally (or on purpose) greasing the outside of the claw washer / adjusting nut mating surface (and also the lock nut) and therefore having to add a lot of extra torque to the adjusting nut in order to get the preload correct.
The low coefficient of friction of the grease is the reason you have to add so much more torque.
"additional torque needed" "if it's greased". So your talking about, reading on torque wrench.I've tried this both ways.
I've seen how much additional torque needed to be applied to the adjusting nut, if it's greased, in order to get the preload correct.
I can get in the 9.5 to 15 pound range with 15 ft lbs of torque on a dry adjusting nut.