Dissent offroad 200 series offerings.

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Any updates as to when the 200 rear might be available to order?
 
@benc - You’re probably slammed getting the new shop setup (congrats by the way!).

One question I forgot to ask before, are you going to be offering skid plates for the Lx crowd? Saw your three plate design for 200LC’s and thought it was sharp!
 
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The Dissent front bumper doesn’t look that great on the 200. To me, it’s a boring design and doesn’t blend well with the front. Rhino, TJM are much better looking. Just seems like a waste of money to put this little bumper on the front and the stock front end looks better. The rear bumper offering is much better design wise. They have a terrible website as well. It doesn’t take much effort to hire a web designer. Plenty out of work right now.
 
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The Dissent front bumper doesn’t look that great on the 200. To me, it’s a boring design and doesn’t blend well with the front. Rhino, TJM are much better looking. Just seems like a waste of money to put this little bumper on the front and the stock front end looks better. The rear bumper offering is much better design wise. They have a terrible website as well. It doesn’t take much effort to higher a web designer. Plenty out of work right now.

Wow...
 
😂 come on, they make the same front bumper design for all Toyota 4x4. As a consumer in 2020, I demand better if you want me to spend my hard earned money. The bull bar is a bolt on as well. How strong is that? 🙄
 
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As a former owner of the Dissent bumper on my old 100 series (first one in my state and one of the first batches made) which I thought was one of the best integrated bumpers of that platform I have to agree with @Angelo1 - at least in pictures (I haven't seen one in person) the front lines of the LX don't go well with this bumper.
Somewhat similar but better integrated bumper that I feel exactly opposite about is the CBI bumper made for SEMA on the black LX floating around here (sorry can't remember the screen name of the owner) - unfortunately not available as they (CBI) are not interested in making it...
I am honestly hoping for someone to start making good looking bumpers for the LX - have cash waiting for for the right design.
To say all that Ben is a stand up guy and his designs have top notch quality and are highly recommended, I just don't feel it's the best looking solution for the front of my truck.
 
If you want a custom design in line with the truck, someone needs to get an LX in with Trail Tailor. It won't be in AL but it'll be form fitting custom.
 
The Dissent front bumper doesn’t look that great on the 200. To me, it’s a boring design and doesn’t blend well with the front. Rhino, TJM are much better looking. Just seems like a waste of money to put this little bumper on the front and the stock front end looks better. The rear bumper offering is much better design wise. They have a terrible website as well. It doesn’t take much effort to hire a web designer. Plenty out of work right now.

I think its a little rude to just come into a thread unprovoked firing like this, and it has nothing to do with you thinking the bumper I put on my vehicle doesn't look good, even though I greatly disagree.


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As with everything, its design has its trade offs. But in terms of a low profile, light weight bumper that provides great clearance and a place to mount a winch, I think its a great solution.

At the end of the day, its a custom job. Custom jobs require a phone call. Ben is one of the easiest people to work with, all you gotta do is pick up the phone.
 
I think its a little rude to just come into a thread unprovoked firing like this, and it has nothing to do with you thinking the bumper I put on my vehicle doesn't look good, even though I greatly disagree.


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As with everything, its design has its trade offs. But in terms of a low profile, light weight bumper that provides great clearance and a place to mount a winch, I think its a great solution.

At the end of the day, its a custom job. Custom jobs require a phone call. Ben is one of the easiest people to work with, all you gotta do is pick up the phone.
I think it’s my American freedom to post my opinion. 👨🏻‍💻 I wasn’t trying to be rude, I just like to be a little more unique and not follow what everyone else is doing. I didn’t even see your photo previously or paid any attention who started the tread. If you like the outcome of the bumper, that’s great. Who cares what I think, it’s just my opinion. Personally, the bumper design looks small (toothpick style) and lazy on the 200. Why couldn’t it have been a full bumper replacement or at least deviate a little as It’s pretty much the same bumper for the Tacoma and 4Runner. How long as this design been around?😏
 
While your first sentence barely warrants a response, I think the latter is almost contradictory. The bumper is different. If you want hoops, steel, full replacement, etc, all of those are on offer from other fabricators. So why be a me too product? I don't see many low profile,light weight, aluminum bumpers on offer for the 200. If they are out there, would love to see them.

Don't think they have made a bumper for 4runners. Seen a couple on tacomas. Same design as the 100's (this is where the bulk of them are seen). Sure. If it aint broke, don't fix it.
 
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I think it’s my American freedom to post my opinion. 👨🏻‍💻 I wasn’t trying to be rude, I just like to be a little more unique and not follow what everyone else is doing. I didn’t even see your photo previously or paid any attention who started the tread. If you like the outcome of the bumper, that’s great. Who cares what I think, it’s just my opinion. Personally, the bumper design looks small (toothpick style) and lazy on the 200. Why couldn’t it have been a full bumper replacement or at least deviate a little as It’s pretty much the same bumper for the Tacoma and 4Runner. How long as this design been around?😏

I have to agree. Why do I see the whole suspension and undercarriage underneath? That’s not a bumper. Why not just remove the bumper all together and mount a winch shelf with a winch to the frame and be done.
 
Meh. To each his own. Everybody is allowed an opinion and I don’t think it makes sense to rip Angelo. He’s just stating his opinion. Of course not everybody will agree. I’d say Ben isn’t hurting for business and it’s not like he is out going door to door pushing his products on anybody. He must be doing something right.

I think the Dissent bumper is perfect for my needs. It’s exactly what I wanted and suits my purposes. It’s solid, sturdy, lightweight, and improves my approach angles significantly. Don’t like a lot of bulk and useless crap. I’m a function over form type of guy, but I also happen to think it’s a good looking bumper. I get a lot of compliments about it for what that’s worth.

Again, everybody has different tastes. I personally don’t like wheels with fake ass bead locks, but that’s just me.

I do think that the Dissent bumpers look better when you have full armor underneath, but I’m doing fine with my stock skids so I’m not interested in that.

The website dig though? Seriously?

Anyhoo.....
 
I have to agree. Why do I see the whole suspension and undercarriage underneath? That’s not a bumper. Why not just remove the bumper all together and mount a winch shelf with a winch to the frame and be done.
The goal there is to improve approach angle. It is the same reason that you can remove the outer bumpers on the Wrangler. If that is not important to you, then perhaps you would prefer a different bumper.
 
The goal there is to improve approach angle. It is the same reason that you can remove the outer bumpers on the Wrangler. If that is not important to you, then perhaps you would prefer a different bumper.
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While your first sentence barely warrants a response, I think the latter is almost contradictory. The bumper is different. If you want hoops, steel, full replacement, etc, all of those are on offer from other fabricators. So why be a me too product? I don't see many low profile,light weight, aluminum bumpers on offer for the 200. If they are out there, would love to see them.

Don't think they have made a bumper for 4runners. Seen a couple on tacomas. Same design as the 100's (this is where the bulk of them are seen). Sure. If it aint broke, don't fix it.
I always laugh when people use that line “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”. Not sure anyone really believes that, otherwise we’d be all using land lines and watching tv in black and white. 😜 If you like the bumper, kudos. It just doesn’t look good to me on a 200.
 
The goal there is to improve approach angle. It is the same reason that you can remove the outer bumpers on the Wrangler. If that is not important to you, then perhaps you would prefer a different bumper.
Buy a GWagon or wrangler if your goal is approach angles. The 200 is not meant to be a rock crawler and once you clear the front approach, the rear is going to drag with its long overhang. The 200 is for over-landing and safety to the malls with family. I remember a few years ago having this exact conversation with Christo when he was doing work on my ‘14 200. He agreed 😏
 
The goal there is to improve approach angle. It is the same reason that you can remove the outer bumpers on the Wrangler. If that is not important to you, then perhaps you would prefer a different bumper.

Right I understand the intent I just don’t think a $90K 6000lb SUV needs to look like a dedicated wrangler. It’s a similar argument between JL Sahara and Rubicon where one looks like it could take you from a light trail to a night in downtown and the other from trailer park to the nearest quarry.
I think someone needs to design a bumper that looks like it belongs on LC.
 
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