Thanks, I’ve encountered that 6 wheeled thing on Redington before.@rusty87 That is at Saguaro Lake. The mornings have still been remarkably wonderful, for July 1. That said, we were up VERY early this fine, cool summer morning and took the mutts to the coves to do a bit of swimming. Heading there, the tonto pass parking spots were busy with folks, for such an early hour, astonishingly. Staging area had activity, Cove 1 was already busy, 2 was getting there and 3 was enjoyable upon arrival. The main wash was really packed out, we need a heavy rain to fluff it up.