Contacted by the Ministry of Transport regarding LJ78
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108Cruz said:
I bet some of them read MUD and have told the higher ups about the LJ's tail lights.
Canuck said:
Actually, depending on the inspector you end up with, some argue that the rear tail lights and the front turn signal pods have enough of a wrap-around to act as side marker lights. But...I'm not taking any chances with that issue and have gone ahead and installed amber marker lights up front and red ones in the rear from Princess Auto. Lenses are marked DOT.
If you want nice ones, I believe Greg B. is purchasing a set of Toyota BJ70 ones from Toyota...don't know if he has the part number handy. Way more money that way, but they look stock instead of bush.
it does not matter if the truck has passed many hands it is the truck that is the issue, not the owner. the present owner is the one that is responsible to make sure the truck complies. if it can not be made to comply then you have a nice lawn ornament...Canuck said:
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any uinits that do not conform to DOT/SAE standards are getting a letter sent to them in BC nd in Alberta. it is the responsibility of the OWNER to make sure the truck complies.
I cant speak for Alberta, but my registration here in BC only shows my LJ78 as being a 'Landcruiser'...nothing about RHD. So I dont think they can recall these JDM trucks just by the insurance papers....probably the easiest way is for ICBC to contact the inspection facilities that do many JDM inspections, and ask them to contact the owners of the trucks.
Regarding the high mount brake light, I am looking at a BC Vehicle Inspection Manual as I write this, and it clearly states that the high mount stop
lamp "equipped on vehicles on and after Jan 1, 1987".
Also, regarding the DRL issue, it states "required on all vehicles manufactured on and after Dec 1, 1989"
I agree the older 4runner high mount brake light should go on an LJ78, and probably look at home.
I installed Bosch H4 headlights because the Hella did not display DOT or SAE on them.
I cant speak for Alberta, but my registration here in BC only shows my LJ78 as being a 'Landcruiser'...nothing about RHD. So I dont think they can recall these JDM trucks just by the insurance papers....probably the easiest way is for ICBC to contact the inspection facilities that do many JDM inspections, and ask them to contact the owners of the trucks.
Regarding the high mount brake light, I am looking at a BC Vehicle Inspection Manual as I write this, and it clearly states that the high mount stop
lamp "equipped on vehicles on and after Jan 1, 1987".
Also, regarding the DRL issue, it states "required on all vehicles manufactured on and after Dec 1, 1989"
I agree the older 4runner high mount brake light should go on an LJ78, and probably look at home.
I installed Bosch H4 headlights because the Hella did not display DOT or SAE on them.
I have seen a lot of LJ78's and LJ71's in the past few months at dealer lots.
For some reason the LJ71's I've seen all have the DOT/SAE markings on the rear tail lights. The LJ78's don't seem the have the markings for whatever reason and they look like the same type of lamp assembly.
For some reason the LJ71's I've seen all have the DOT/SAE markings on the rear tail lights. The LJ78's don't seem the have the markings for whatever reason and they look like the same type of lamp assembly.
crushers said:
Im looking in my BC inspection book under 'light vehicles' in section 6 (lamps) and I dont see anything that says 'if you wish', or the date 1997 regarding lighting. Is that an Alberta book you're looking at?
The thing that I learned a couple weeks ago when I took my Commerical Vehicle Inspector upgrade course is that most police forces around the Lower Mainland here ( RCMP, VPD, DELTA etc.) can no longer give a ticket for burned out (or illegal) taillight, headlight, or any other individual item, they must issue a notice and order for a complete vehicle inspection. Not good if we do the third brake light, headlights, but the Cop knows about our taillight issues etc....we could very likely be forced to have our JDM vehicles reinspected.
motorcoach123 said:
no vehicles in canada had the third brake light in 87. It was the late 90's when they came out. I know daylight running lights were 89.
If vehicles had them before 97 it was there doing, maybe just ahead of the legislature.
A word of advice for anyone replacing headlights - some of the Bosch headlights do not state DOT or SAE on them. It might be worth checking the lenses before you buy, as that is one of the reasonds we replace the lenses.
motorcoach123 said:
I guess I take this to mean that you are a CVSE inspector here in BC? If so, it would be great information for the rest of us to learn what an inspector who himself owns an LJ has done to satisfy the rules and regs. It could very well be a handy reference...
As far as replacement headlights go...my Hella kit from Lordco have the appropriate SAE markings. On my way to the freeway this morning on 200th St., there was a CVSE SUV beside me. I admit I felt a little nervous, but I've taken the time and effort to try my best to satisfy the requirements, even installing the marker lights. He switched lanes to get behind me, and I thought he was going to pull me over. He was definitely checking out my BJ74, but in the end he just drove off without hassling me.
They should give you a sticker or decal of some sort that you can stick on your back window/tailgate showing that you've been checked out and are satisfactory/compliant/legit.
That way you would not have to worry about getting pulled over everytime CVSE is behind you and they would not have to wonder if your rig meets all the requirements.
Just a thought.
Mot
That way you would not have to worry about getting pulled over everytime CVSE is behind you and they would not have to wonder if your rig meets all the requirements.
Just a thought.
Mot
mot said:They should give you a sticker or decal of some sort that you can stick on your back window/tailgate showing that you've been checked out and are satisfactory/compliant/legit.
That way you would not have to worry about getting pulled over everytime CVSE is behind you and they would not have to wonder if your rig meets all the requirements.
Just a thought.
Mot
Mot:
I "think" they don't do that because it is easy enough to modify your vehicle again as soon as you finish passing the inspection.
Stone said:
High Mount Brake Light
I have installed a third brake light on my LJ78 which I picked up from the wreckers. It was taken out of a Nissan Excess van, don't know what year it was. It mounts perfectly inside and on top of the wide door window so that it is centered on the vehicle. It is quite easy to tuck the wiring inside the rubber window strip then route it through the existing wiring to get it inside the body of the truck to pick up a feed from right rear stop light. The trim cover on brake light was grey so it matches the interior of the LJ, looks like a stock item and I don't have to drill any holes mounting something on the exterior which invites water and rust.
I have installed a third brake light on my LJ78 which I picked up from the wreckers. It was taken out of a Nissan Excess van, don't know what year it was. It mounts perfectly inside and on top of the wide door window so that it is centered on the vehicle. It is quite easy to tuck the wiring inside the rubber window strip then route it through the existing wiring to get it inside the body of the truck to pick up a feed from right rear stop light. The trim cover on brake light was grey so it matches the interior of the LJ, looks like a stock item and I don't have to drill any holes mounting something on the exterior which invites water and rust.
from my past experience with BC inspections is after you get the sticker stating you passed an inspector or PO can issue another inspection notice as soon as you leave the inspection facility! His argument was I could have altered the vehcvile after the inspection. Plus I also already had an inspection notice and got another one from a different cop ont he same day! 
there is an importer in Calgary (name withheld) that plans on installing the proper lights in a JDM and then as soon as the OOP is completed switching back to the factory lights. he told this to the inspection shop...
once again, it is buyer beware. check the unit over to make sure it complies or at least budget to mod later...
once again, it is buyer beware. check the unit over to make sure it complies or at least budget to mod later...
once again, it is buyer beware. check the unit over to make sure it complies or at least budget to mod later...[/quote]
But those tail lights are still not compliant on the '78, have you found a remedy for those yet, Wayne?
As far as the new cars go without the DOT tail lights, I was told that the manufacturer applies for, and receives a waiver, for things like non-compliant (non DOT/SAE) tail lights, or anything else. I'm told that there will be a small silver sticker on the car somewhere that indicates that it has received government ok....Apparently Hyundai received waivers back in the '80's (as North American governments wanted to help Hyundai enter the car market) for small things such as emission levels not complying. Thats why if you try to AirCare (BC Lowermainland) some of those cars now, they wont pass no matter what you do, as they werent compliant when they were new.
So maybe the argument that 'other vehicles on the road have non-compliant tail lights too' won't wash.
But those tail lights are still not compliant on the '78, have you found a remedy for those yet, Wayne?
As far as the new cars go without the DOT tail lights, I was told that the manufacturer applies for, and receives a waiver, for things like non-compliant (non DOT/SAE) tail lights, or anything else. I'm told that there will be a small silver sticker on the car somewhere that indicates that it has received government ok....Apparently Hyundai received waivers back in the '80's (as North American governments wanted to help Hyundai enter the car market) for small things such as emission levels not complying. Thats why if you try to AirCare (BC Lowermainland) some of those cars now, they wont pass no matter what you do, as they werent compliant when they were new.
So maybe the argument that 'other vehicles on the road have non-compliant tail lights too' won't wash.
Well, I'll say it again, the legitimate dealers have to put thier differences aside and form an association of JDM importers. If we don't we are going to find ourselves twiddling our thumbs while we watch our businesses go down the tubes.
Individually we have no voice - together we can have some say in what happens. And, now it seems that some of the curbers are becoming legit dealers so that is a good thing.
If I have time in the fall I will try to put something together - pretty hard with a fulltime job, 2 kids under 4 years and 2 businesses though.
Individually we have no voice - together we can have some say in what happens. And, now it seems that some of the curbers are becoming legit dealers so that is a good thing.
If I have time in the fall I will try to put something together - pretty hard with a fulltime job, 2 kids under 4 years and 2 businesses though.