another ARB vs OEM locker issue

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ShottsUZJ100 said:
Ya, but with factories, nobody can tell when you lock. You can be macho and say you did the obstacle open. :D
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Excellent Point!
 
So I've read that with the OEM and bigger tires you run a risk of twisting the half-shaft? But there's no problem with the half-shaft on the unlocked axle? must be a different part, stronger, whatever.

What gives?
 
That applies to twisting the RH shaft in an E-locker equipped vehicle. The splines on the RH axle are longer in order to accomodate the dog clutch sleeve. If the splines twist between the sleeve and the end of the axle shaft it is impossible to pull the RH shaft without cutting something up to gain access. I believe that in some cases the fork and/or sleeve or shaft has to be torched to get it apart.
 
KliersLC said:
OEM,

ARB's are notorious for problems-air lines, compressor, oil leaks etc. I'll take anything toyota builds over most comparable items
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More like ARB's are notorious for installer error ;)

I have had one ARB compressor fail, guess they are made to be an air compressor, not water compressor :) (route your compressor to the snorkle ;))
 
mason said:
If you were in the market again for an 80, and found TWO 80s, both very close to the same year, mileage, and condition, but one has ARBs installed and the other has OEM lockers, which one would you choose?

--Eddie
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Buy both if you can afford it! :D
 
ShottsUZJ100 said:
Ya, but with factories, nobody can tell when you lock. You can be macho and say you did the obstacle open. :D
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So you think its cool to lie about your driving prowess???:confused:

Who would have thought it Shottz.:D
 
reffug said:
So you think its cool to lie about your driving prowess???:confused:

Who would have thought it Shottz.:D
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The opposite is true FUG. :D No lying is necessary. I luv going up and over obstacles OPEN in the TRAC-100 while the 80's are locking R or F&R. :)

OK, back to task FUG!
 
ShottsUZJ100 said:
The opposite is true FUG. :D No lying is necessary. I luv going up and over obstacles OPEN in the TRAC-100 while the 80's are locking R or F&R. :)

OK, back to task FUG!
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careful...

some of us have been on the trail with you...


;)
 
cruiserdan said:
That applies to twisting the RH shaft in an E-locker equipped vehicle. The splines on the RH axle are longer in order to accomodate the dog clutch sleeve. If the splines twist between the sleeve and the end of the axle shaft it is impossible to pull the RH shaft without cutting something up to gain access. I believe that in some cases the fork and/or sleeve or shaft has to be torched to get it apart.
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If you examine the diff then you will see that the slide collar locks the short side shaft (with long splines) to the carrier, thus immobolising the side gear inside the carrier, however the long side shaft is not locked to the carrier, but just connected to the other side gear.

If you put enough torque on the long side shaft, it will turn the it's side gear slightly, putting pressure on the inside pinion gears, which in turn puts pressure on the side gear (indirectly connected to the case via the axle shafts and slide collar) of the short side shaft and thus twisting the shaft between the slide collar and the inside side gear. Now when you unlock and try to remove the shaft, the axle does not come out.

It took us a while to figure this out since we could not understand how it twisted the shaft between the locking collar and the side gear when locked since the locking collar is moved closer to the side gear.

So in essense when the rear locker is locked, what is locking it together is the axle shaft and not the case. That is a lot of torque on a little 30 spline axle shaft.

The front does not work that way.
 
okay Christo, okay!

holy triple-post batman! :eek:


:D
 
Quadruple by-pass post..........:D
 
sleeoffroad said:
Depends on what tire size and what you are going to do with the truck. Hardcore 37" tires I would take the ARB's given everything else is the same. Search for thread on twisted splines on rear axle.
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I like to shame my good experience with ARB lockers .. maybe the diference are the model . ? mines RD08 in my HJ-60 with 37" plus chains .. excelent . !

So my off road is mud, maybe more soft than rocks ..
 
sleeoffroad said:
Thought I should post it 4 times to make it clear :D
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Good idea, it is Shotts after all.:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:
 
Judging by the people who gave a definite nod to one versus the other, it looks like ARBs won out by 9 to 4 (C-Dan gave a nod to both, depending on the tire size). I didn't know the opinions would be that skewed, but it does give me a good starting point. Thanks, all.

--Eddie
 
mason said:
Judging by the people who gave a definite nod to one versus the other, it looks like ARBs won out by 9 to 4 (C-Dan gave a nod to both, depending on the tire size). I didn't know the opinions would be that skewed, but it does give me a good starting point. Thanks, all.

--Eddie
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