Annual lecture on rollover danger

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IdahoDoug said:
I like how the Bimmer handled that crash - typical of a high end German make. They do the research and that photo is the result of proper attention to roof structure, body strength and fuel system integrity (no evidence of fire). Glad to hear it ended well.

DougM

typical of german car designed to handle crashes at 140mph on the audobauhn.
 
Walking Eagle said:
Ya', and I like my 40 alot more after I corrected it.

I think this was more directed towards a unlifted 40 in comparison, but you probably would have liked the results of a shackle reversal as well...
 
fj803fe said:
I think this was more directed towards a unlifted 40 in comparison, but you probably would have liked the results of a shackle reversal as well...

i know, I was just saying, ya' - my 80 is better than my 40, and my 40 definately drives better with the caster shims than before them - implying that a caster corrected 80 would drive better than a non-caster corrected lifted 80.
 
I think about a cage all the time. The problem is that there aren't any kits for the 80 yet and we don't have a local fabricator that would take on such a job and do a decent job. I'd rather go without than have a crappy one. I also think about seat belts all the time. I'm convinced that harnesses are a better answer. I even got used to wearing them all the time in my 40.

Safety Devices in the UK make self fit cages for the 80 series. I fitted one to my 80 after a side swipe on the motorway left me struggling to get it back under control. My 80 has about 5" lift + 36" tyres and a lot of extra weight so I figured a bit of extra protection was in order.

The Safety Devices cage has a lot more triangulation than the one shown earlier in this thread and I would think it's significantly stronger for it.

The trade off is that the triangulation means losing the sun roof.

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Jon.
 
Looks like a piece of cake to install too....:eek:


Good thing you did not have to remove the steering wheel. What a time-saver.......;)
 
I went wheeling with wngrog today. I rolled his rig 8 times! Luckily, it was a $50 RC from Walmart...but still, my 5 year old drove it like a pro!
 
Looks like a piece of cake to install too

It wasn't too bad, took a day and a half to it all being back where it should be. The sunroof had to be removed and to do that the head lining has to come out. Someone with more patience than me might take the trouble to fit a new headlining from a none sunroof model to make the finish a bit more factory. It also involved cutting notches out of the arm rests on the door trim to clear the cage tubes.

Very handy having all that tubing to strap things to and run wire round :)

Jon.
 
Went to a dinner party last night at a friend's house. We met a new couple who recently moved here. He's a fun guy who loves cars (points), and she's a smart and gorgeous blonde. Two beautiful kids.

During dinner she told of a horrific accident a few months ago due to reaching back to get something for one of the kids while driving on Hwy 97 in Oregon (two laner) in a late model Range Rover (no stability control). She bumped the steering wheel while leaning back and the truck swerved. She couldn't find center and it wouldn't respond as she expected, so she never regained control of it. On dry pavement, she flipped it at 65 and the roof over her head crushed down on top of her on the first hit (sound familiar?). It rolled at least one more time and then slid on its roof to a stop in the oncoming lane.

She had major stitches and gravel removed from her scalp from contact with the road surface. The kids were both in Britax seats and not a scratch. Happily, she's still gorgeous and you'd never know.

Given my recent comments on reading about an absolutely identical crash investigation over the Holiday and my recent comments extolling the virtues of Britax child safety seats you're gonna acuse me of planting this one. I kid you not - out of the blue coincidence.

It's the initial roof hit that is the problem and the CG and angular velocity of a rolling SUV (weight distribution and vehicle's configuration - they're all roughly the same) and the propensity of for a swerve back onto the roadway from the right that cause the high incidence of this roof slap on the driver's A pillar.

Argue about your driving skills all day long, but please drive safely and consider carefully if suspension and tire mods on a DD are worth it.

DougM
 
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