Brackets still available for fzj80?
Adaptive Light Brackets for solid axle cruisers (2 Viewers)
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Still making these?
Cruiser Cult
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Unfortunately we are not.
Damn - I was just about to ask the same. Your design looks better than whatever I'm finding rn.
May I ask why not?
Cruiser Cult
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Another company was awarded a patent that prevents us from selling or making them.
I was searching yesterday and found nothing comparable to yours. Which company won the patent? I'd like to compare it. Thanks.
These guys?
gatekeeperoffroad.com
Toyota Mounts
Knuckle Pod Mounts are patented Steering Light Brackets that allow users to mount a fog light lower to the ground than the bumpers on their lifted rigs would allow, resulting in much more effective light performance in foggy, dusty, snowy, and rainy situations. Additionally, the steerable...
gatekeeperoffroad.com
Seems suspect, @red66toy @Cruiser Cult
you started this thread in 8/2021 and they patented your idea in 2/2022. That's some BS
Ahh it looks like they filed in 3/2021 but they only have an application for 80 series for Toyotas but their design differs significantly from yours.
Seems to me that your design is superior and significantly different enough perhaps they could only be marketed for the 40 & 60 series
you started this thread in 8/2021 and they patented your idea in 2/2022. That's some BS
Ahh it looks like they filed in 3/2021 but they only have an application for 80 series for Toyotas but their design differs significantly from yours.
Seems to me that your design is superior and significantly different enough perhaps they could only be marketed for the 40 & 60 series
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Yes, that's the one I found online before revisiting this thread. Their design's different from yours but the patent language covers both theirs and other potential designs (including your design). What's interesting is that some of their products for Jeeps, 4Runners, Chevy and Ford pickups resemble yours while others don'tThese guys?
Toyota Mounts
Knuckle Pod Mounts are patented Steering Light Brackets that allow users to mount a fog light lower to the ground than the bumpers on their lifted rigs would allow, resulting in much more effective light performance in foggy, dusty, snowy, and rainy situations. Additionally, the steerable...
. That said their mount for the 80 is completely different to yours so this is where the broad language of their US Patent looks to have been the end of your product.I recall my university International Business professor talking how businesses/lawyers who know how to write a patent submission have used the US Patent office to kill competition. The best example of a company using the Patent office against competitors and non-related businesses is Monster (cables) - they've even litigating small mom and pop businesses just because their name included "Monster". This is why I've never bought anything from Monster for any home or business systems.
That patent says it's for mounting a light. What if someone made a mount to mount something else, hmm.
How about a rubber duck like Jeeps do
Well there you have it. Cruiser Cult roll with it
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It was a hard pill to swallow. We tried to fight it as much as we could. But in the end they were somehow able to make their patent general enough to cover a lot of configurations (regardless of vehicle manufacturer). We are a small business and don't have the resources to really fight it unfortunately.
We agree that ours is a better design but it is what it is at this point.
Thank you to all our supporters of these mounts. I hope all our past customers are enjoying them as much as we are.
We agree that ours is a better design but it is what it is at this point.
Thank you to all our supporters of these mounts. I hope all our past customers are enjoying them as much as we are.
The kicker is it's your design used on every Jeep model, Ford and most others they offer but curiously not on their version of a bracket for the 80
Regardless, it's the Monster Cable tactics of shutting down competition vs letting the market decide.
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It was a hard pill to swallow. We tried to fight it as much as we could. But in the end they were somehow able to make their patent general enough to cover a lot of configurations (regardless of vehicle manufacturer). We are a small business and don't have the resources to really fight it unfortunately.
We agree that ours is a better design but it is what it is at this point.
Thank you to all our supporters of these mounts. I hope all our past customers are enjoying them as much as we are.
We thank you too. Here is their recent response to my question below. Not helpful. They’re definitely not getting any of my money.
I asked…… “ Think I can squeeze Baja design Squadron (3”x3”x2.8” deep) on knuckle pod mount for 80 series Landcruiser. Photos look like it could work.
Their response……”That would be up to you to find out as we don't have one here to test on anymore. We only recommend a 2" light for warranty/guarantee purposes.
This looks like a really interesting solution for adding adaptive lighting to the solid axle cruisers! I've been wanting to do something similar and the bracket design looks quite robust. Are there any details on the mounting points used and what kind of adjustability is offered? Thanks for sharing this!
