Yeah - they're all assumptions. My point was more that it's definitely a process they've considered/implemented, rather than conjecture. Everything else is still up in the air other than what we've seen.
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Yeah - they're all assumptions. My point was more that it's definitely a process they've considered/implemented, rather than conjecture. Everything else is still up in the air other than what we've seen.
1) Toyota has specifically said that the TNGA-F frame was designed so that the steel gauge can be adjusted for different vehicles. I believe that was discussed in this interview:
Or maybe it was in the savagegeese Taco video:
2) Previously in this thread someone posted comparison images of the LC300 and LC250 frames. The LC250 frame appears to be thinner.
Yeah, the super safari is going to be missed.
Before I get out of kuwait, I think I am going to grab a 97 Y61 to import as they will become eligible in the next year or so. Seems like you can track them down for around 1200KD or 3500 USD
Spending alot of time in Kuwait, is part of the reason I got the family an Armada, and even though I've had a Yukon, suburban, sequioa and LC, the new Armada is really good.
I'm actually just as excited to see the next gen Armada/patrol as I am the new LC/4R.
I owned an Armada but it was a compromise too many for the US. They seriously neutered the truck and really messed w/ the lines.
Nissan had such potential.
Nissan had such potential.
Alot of this conjecture is really going to come down to price and availability.
Toyota currently has production issues so its a real possibility that poverty LC might hit 65k with ADM and higher trims might approach the LX600 starting point...
I'm not willing to entertain those price levels. I may well consider a truck, they seem to not have gone to bizaro world.
Eventually supply will get back to normal. If you need to be the first one on the block, then ADM is likely. Wait a year and see what happens.
Agree with both of you. The prices are insane, and I won't be first in line. My wife and I do okay for work, but I can't imagine the car payment for an 80k car. Even with 40 down you're looking at a 750+ monthly payment for financing! I don't know how the median car price is 48k unless people are more comfortable than I am being at very high Debt / Income ratio.
Maybe I'll grab a used one when people realize they can't afford it!
I think this is happening faster than a lot of toyota only shoppers are realizing. Inventory is stacking up pretty much everywhere but Toyota dealers. From end of May. The ideal is usually considered somewhere around 50-60 days. And I think that's roughly a point where you see prices start falling below MSRP in many cases. A lot of the industry is already there. I think there's a credit bubble playing in as well - it sure looks like brands that skew toward lower credit score customers really piling up inventory. Jeep has problems.
Personally - if I can't afford to pay cash, I can't afford the car. I don't really think about the payment side of it as much. But I can say with a pretty high degree of certainty that I won't pay an ADM anytime soon or likely ever. One benefit of driving Toyotas is that I can pretty well keep driving what I've got until the right value comes along. Even if that's not for 5 more years.
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Very antiquated engine, transmission, very polarizing looks...basically they tried to make it way too upscale for the market it was designed to compete in.
Mechanically it was great...just a rather bad attempt at putting lipstick on a pig scenario.
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I wonder if the 4runner is gonna get the non hybrid turbo 4 with a manual from the Tacoma
Would you rather buy a manual 4runner with a rear locker or a LC 1958?
Would you rather buy a manual 4runner with a rear locker or a LC 1958?
The auto loans are retarded...asking a customer to sign a 6-8 year note at some seriously high rates is predatory IMO. At that point, the car is already EOL, and most owners get upside down really fast.
Depends what else is in the garage - keep my 6TM Tacoma? LC250. Go down to just the 1 vehicle? 4Runner
The 4Runner will not have a manual transmission. Neither the 4th nor the 5th Gen 4Runners had a manual transmission. In the time since the 4th gen was introduced, manual transmissions have become significantly less popular.
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Rumors say 4runner will have Tacoma engine options and an optional manual transmission
it's possible it'll happen - the Tacoma is confirmed with the manual and the 4Runner will have the same engine. The Tacoma 6MT is only for the non-hybrid, so the only way the 4Runner would skip the MT is if they kept it hybrid-only like the Sequoia or LC250, but then it would be identical to the LC250 with no differentiation
So? Toyota would still have to perform the design, engineering, and testing (EPA, etc.) for both automatic and manual transmissions on the 4Runner. The take rate on a manual transmission 4Runner would be very low. My prediction: automatic only for the 4Runner.
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Don’t kill our dreams
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I mean the 4runner has always been similar to the Tacoma. I wouldn’t be surprised if we got all Tacoma engine options and a manual. Things are getting more retro, and the inclusion of a “poverty pack” Land Cruiser is evidence they listened to people’s wants for more bare bones features
Neither video you posted was about the 250 or official from Toyota. I've seen the photos you are talking about... Not sure how you derive that assumption.
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