My guess remains that the new 4R gets the Taco 4 cylinder and the new LC gets the same GX TTV6. For all intents and purposes, in regards to marketing and maybe customer base, Toyota and Lexus are two different companies.
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My guess remains that the new 4R gets the Taco 4 cylinder and the new LC gets the same GX TTV6. For all intents and purposes, in regards to marketing and maybe customer base, Toyota and Lexus are two different companies.
New Taco has the same track width as the LC300 (it's very slightly wider due likely to wheel offset) in the off-road trims. I'd guess it shares many suspension parts and basic geometry, hard points, etc. And it shares a 9.5" rear axle now. No details yet on front diff size. I think the general size would be pretty close to the GX/LC if they continue with the same 110" wheelbase. I suspect the Tacoma, LC300, and GX/LC250 all share the same rear suspension and axles but for gearing, lockers, etc. And the front is all pretty much a black box at this point. Visually the pre-production versions all have some variations in front suspension, but it's hard to tell what that means in production models.
The non-offroad Tacoma models are narrower a bit and have lighter duty axles. I'm not sure what size. And they also have smaller brakes. IIRC there are 3 or 4 different brake sizes for the Tacoma depending on trim. Some even come on leaf springs still while most are coils in the rear. Lots of options and configurations.
What stayed smaller was the door to door width, so the cabin in still about the same width as the old Taco. The fenders are pretty wide to cover the wide track. I suspect that is pretty similar dimensionally to the LC250 in relationship between overall width and door to door.
Anyway - a Tacoma SUV would probably end up the same width as the LC250 and LC300 if it uses the wider track width components. Possibly narrower if it uses the base model Taco stuff. Or possibly it'll have similar trims with a range of widths?
Many of us believe that the new 4Runner will be based of the new Tacoma including the TRD Pro and Trailhunter features.
I believe there is room for the 4Runner. I forsee the 4Runnner occupying the $40-60K price range and the LC being $60k+
I also believe the 4Runner will be distinguished by the 4cyl and (in the TRD and Trailhunter) a sway bar disconnect while the LC will have the 6 cylinder and E-KDSS.
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Listen to Kirk starting at 5:00, I'm pretty sure he's not flying to Japan, and as he mentions, someone already revealed the location.
I’ve watched enough narcissistic videos saying next to nothing for a lifetime. Will it be in Utah or Japan or you don’t know?
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Unlikely.
How is it getting roasted? The 4 cylinder that is more powerful than its current engine? Losing KDSS that was in less than 20% (?) of its sold models?
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I've already explained when and where my Plano source said it would be, Utah. So far my source had the date right, we will see if the location is right on Aug 1st.
The museum will be closed for a special event so it’s an easy guess, although I wonder what they are doing Sat - Mon. The only reason for the question was the previous information about it being from Japan. Maybe the actual reveal announcement will come from Japan and there will be event showing it in Utah. That way everyone can be sort of partially right.
Man the mental masturb@t!on has really taken off in the last few pages
Sorry, that was confusing. I intended that comment to be specifically about the outgoing J150/J200 in reference to the light-duty series vs wagons but it definitely doesn’t read that way. I’ve seen both LX600 and GX550 in person but have not had an opportunity to look under either in person.
Very entertaining - I love and hate the internet.
It will be great to see the broadcast and videos from beautiful downtown Salt Lake.
To bad the snow capped mountains are missing this time of year.
Adding good features and improvements like a new engine to a cash cow or goose laying golden eggs is fine, but changing its size and reducing its price? Not a good idea unless you are a charity serving your competitors. It seems to me this is a Peter Schutz at Porsche moment. Schutz is selling the 928, but the Porsche family defended their golden goose 911. Toyota’s best play here is to follow suit with the 911. Keep the 4Runner best in class looks body while improving everything else. They will milk that cult figure truck for another few decades, just like Porsche did the 911. That’s my take after driving this lovely beast. Cheers
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Your cell phone pics of the pages will be fine, please post away.Full pics in Motortrend this month of the blue version, article said retail between 55k and 65k. Just came in the mail yesterday. Funny because I never subscribed.
I don't know about size but by lower price I think they meant lower than the Land Cruiser, so probably less than $55k-75k. So slight overlap with base LC and TRD-Pro 4Runner. I don't think that is unreasonable.
Thanks, but we're way past the render stage.
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