1kz-te engine sounds sick and sporadic odd knocking (6 Viewers)

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Took it home, drove for another couple weeks, then ... after 5 minutes of warming, it starts to smoke, sputter and you get an awful rattling in the engine every so often.

EGR has yet to be checked, Compression has yet to be checked (he told me he did it but I highly doubt it). Now he tells me the gears are out.


My cousin has 1KZT-E enigne in the LJ-70.

He suffered a similar problem... (after the engine heated up, starting the problem)

After reviewing almost everything, the problem was electronic injection pump. :bang:

This electronic injection pump can not be repaired, so had to change it, since that day has come again NOT the fault


...Good Luck Mate! ;)
 
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i am trying to picture this in my head
one bolt sheared off
the gear moving back and forth
timing out

The gears are helical cut so can slide and effect timing.
However to be honest we never did a timing check.

We made the assumption that the timing must be moving as the engine was rocking and rolling and running like a bag of bolts.

When we were playing with it, start from cold idles o.k. While still cold and rev gently it would then not idle smoothly and run as above.
Idle for a few seconds and it would smooth out but you could hear something noisy from up front.
At first we thought it could be the vane vacuum pump but was coming from deeper in the front covers.

Give it a little rev and all hell would brake loose again.
We shut her down and towed her home.
He pulled it down a few days later after a local mechanic suggested that the gears were at fault.
Sure enough they were damaged and bolts / bolt sheared and loose.
He had to change two gear sets as it was so loose as to chip teeth.

Once all fixed up ran like a dream and still does to this day.

As for "BS statement" I enjoy a good discussion and take nothing personally.
We all see things in our travels and its great to share those experiences with people.

Sometimes you get different faults / scenarios depending on how a vehicle is driven and what terrain it does.
Here in NZ most of our 1KZTE powered trucks are Japanese imports and who knows what happens to them before we get them.
Here we have people who commute long distances every day and out terrain is hilly.
Also our open road speed is 100kph. And they like to push it.

So the poor old 1KZTE is working hard out of the box.

So keep talking / typing.
 
helica cut would travel, agreed.
broken bolt and the other would need to be stretched or bent somehow to allow the travel of the gear.
chipped teeth could be from the snapped bolt head moving around in the area.
rattle could also come from the snapped bolt.
<just thinking outloud here>

good to hear you are having good results from the KZ, not everyone is.

peace and cheers.
 
well, the truck arrived last night at 8.
took for quick test drive.
tons of power
not much black smoke
rattle is deffinately there.
looked it over for a quick fix:
fan had some play in one spot,
removed the AC belt, no change
removed the alternator belt, no change
removed the EGR plug, no change
revs up fine but when let off it suddenly goes kerchunk and then idles fine.

John, I will be chatting with you on Monday if you don't mind.

whatever it is it isn't good. it almost sounds like a fuel knock, (not bad enough to be a con rod knock but damn near) i am beginning to suspect the injection pump. the sound is definately engine RPM related. picture the sound of a belt rubbing on the plastic housing.

typical LJ body style engine compartment ... no room for my big meats to move around.

amazing power.
 
If it is the gear drive, drop the engine oil and look for metal.....

Be interested in what you find Wayne......
 
ok - I was there when the wrecker guy backed her off of the truck, and was in the KZ with him when Wayne took her out for a test drive.....

havent really thought much of this in the time since.... but Im wondering if this engine has a counter balance shaft or a dual mass flywheel or some other marvel of engineering to balance the engine that may have been compromised when princess put it in the ditch

wheres the exploded diagram of this engine at?

I think ive seen one around here somewhere...
 
Last we spoke Wayne was going to check the valve clearances. He has a suspicion it might be the injection pump but he is starting with the basics.

Out of town for a few days so he might be back at it later next week.
 
Have we found the issue with this engine yet ...
Here is my take,firstly the cambelt could well of been fitted correctly,even though they "mechanic" now says it is out,as these engines have an odd number of teeth on the cam pulley so they only line up once when u fit the belt and then maybe once in a bluemoon,u can test this yourself by reinstalling the belt,using the correct timing marks, then turn the crank 720' (so cam does one revolution) and u will find the marks dont line up again,
I would be as mentioned be checking the simple stuff first,compression,injectors,glow system as the engine has an electronic injection pump if there was anything wrong with it you would be getting a "check engine" light it... so i doubt that it is the pump.
also dont believe anything the nah sayers on here say about the electronically controlled engines,we run a fleet of the 1kzte engined AWD hiace vans and have never had an issue with the pumps
Also just as an point of interest, the hiace vans give out more HP than the prado/hilux versions of the same year so if u want a good upgrade see if u can get an ecu out of a Hiace :)
 
all the sensors checked out fine.
suspect ECU or pump
ECU is obsolete (so anyone considering one of these units, take note)
new injection pump 2800 JPY or $3500 CND.

trying to find used ECU.
 
all the sensors checked out fine.
suspect ECU or pump
ECU is obsolete (so anyone considering one of these units, take note)
new injection pump 2800 JPY or $3500 CND.

trying to find used ECU.

Open the ECU and see if any of the caps or resistors have popped. They can be replaced.

I have heard, but not tried, the ecu from the 90 series can be used. They still can be purchased new from Japan.
 
part number is not the same
it is now a crap shoot and i hate doing that with customers money.
 
Post the P/N and I will see if we have any down under...
There are lots out here in wreckers yards.
Also there is a place here in NZ who recondition the ECU's.
Fellow 4x4 club member had his fault and got his one fixed.

I know its the other side of the world but could be a goer if nothing up your end of the woods.
 
is the part nubmer the same for both? my EPC is down for the count.

(it is an auto) i have access to a manual to test but i was informed they are different between the two.
 
A/T or M/T? Should be stamped on the ECU.

A/T

Thanks to those that have been contributing, it would be nice to get this truck back on the road soon!

Thank you too Wayne, I know how much you love this truck;p
 

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