no centre diff,it just had no free wheeling hubs,actually i threw out 2 new front hubs this year off our old tojo
Thanks for this Aussi FJ40.
I can see how this confusion occurs.
When I get out from the cab and start fiddling with my hubs I'm commonly asked "Are you putting it in 4 wheel drive?".
The easiest answer is a simple "Yes" so that is most often my reply. I guess I'm basically a lazy bastard with speech. (Quite different with words when I hover over a keyboard 1st thing in the morning though. Then verbal diarrhea proliferates as you can see. He he.. )
In my mind though, I never consider the hubs as being part of "putting a vehicle in 4WD".
They are simply an accessory (that is largely unecessary IMO) that allow you to disconnect your front differential from your wheels for the purpose of reducing wear (and/or saving fuel) when travelling on the highway with the transmission set in 2WD.
So to me (and I think most of my generation who have owned 4WD vehicles since our teens), the transmission levers in the cab are really what you use to put your cruiser in 4WD.
To understand us, you probably need to know that back in the 70s (certainly where I lived) freewheeling hubs were rare. They were not sold with new Land Rovers for instance, and Land Rovers dominated the marketplace here. So I still think of normal 4WD vehicles as being without freewheeling hubs even though everyone these days (including myself) have these silly things.
(Incidentally, here's some trivia.. If you wanted freewheeling hubs for a Landrover, the ones the dealers sold in the 70s were made by British company "Fairey" that was originally formed to build aircraft. So they were always referred to as Fairy Hubs. Not very Macho-sounding is it?)
So I think we've probably identified what the seller here is thinking too... (It has no freewheeling hubs and therefore it is full-time 4WD.)
PS. Our different backgrounds give us different meanings to terms so there is really no right or wrong here.
And I thought of whether it was fair of me to grab someones advertisement and dump it in a thread (and be critical of it)... But then I console myself about this by thinking .... The ad is in the public domain. (It is not in the least "private".) The seller is claiming he's selling something rare (presumably in order to either get more interest or get a higher price). So he has a duty to potential buyers to get his facts correct. On this basis ... I think it is reasonable for me to start a discussion on his claims... Sure I could ring him, but it would cost me overseas phone call, and judging by the thread I linked above, I may still end up confused at the end of it.
Without photos detailing the rare Toyota-designed features .... or without official Toyota production records ... we have no evidence of anything being rare here...
(The seller should be showing closeup/clear pics of what makes this cruiser rare ... if it is rare.)
PPS. While I have freewheeling hubs, they are almost always left in the 4x4 setting because I like to imagine the oil and grease in my front-end getting churned up to lubricate everything properly and develop a bit of heat to evaporate out any moisture that may have creeped inside... (My thinking is often anal.) They are only disengaged for long highway trips.
