The mismatched badging is a tell. Tons of scams like this on craigslist. I mostly see them with 3rd gen 4runners.
100 Series Prices
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Mine has 254,000 miles and is just broken in. It's running smoother, suspension is perfect. I keep getting unsoliticed offers lol.
I think this may have something to do with that for a normal Toyota car/truck (Camry, Highlander, Prius etc), people probably believe that 250k miles is near the end of life of the vehicle or at the point of needing major repair. They just don't know the million-mile secret of the Hundy/4.7L
Yes. That and the fact they are so over engineered.
I've noticed that lately 100 series prices are softening, more than they have ever before. I am seeing pretty nice 100s sell for under 15k. I thought we were already at the bottom for these. The 80 series prices seem to have bottomed out years ago, and they were on a slight upward trend for the past few years. not the same for the 100.
The older and simpler cars can probably last if taken good care of. But the new ones, the new Tundra, Taco, Big 3, European ones, many of those requiring new engine at 30k miles, no matter how much care is put into maintenance, will not last long
the only way the manufacturers make more and more $ is to sell you a new car more often.
that cars even last 50k miles is a blessing (and will be figured out soon)
that cars even last 50k miles is a blessing (and will be figured out soon)
I would never own a modern daily driver out of warranty.....
I agree!
OLD GUY 100 SERIES - Did I pay too much? One man's decision...
HOW
How do people decide? In my experience, most folks tend to make their decision to purchase a Land Cruiser based upon condition/mileage, spec/equipment and their intended use. Yes, budget is a consideration, but that is not really a vehicle issue but a personal issue IMHO.
These comments are offered as a serial LC owner over the last 45 years (started with a new 40 Series) that have included: 40, 45, 60, 62 (fire truck), 73, 75 (another fire truck), 77 (Prado), 79 and an 80 - along with a GX 470 and a GX460. Here is my most latest purchase saga, acquiring a 100 Series.
WHY
Recently, based upon family needs, grandson care, age, health, use case, etc. I needed a "new" daily driver that would be comfortable, safe, fast, reliable and with simple systems avoiding tech and dealer support beyond parts availability and affordability. Although a 100 Series has never been owned, I have been a fan since introduction when was blown away by the many upgrades from the 80, as well as increased price.
At age 74, with some health issues (non critical) I realized that the new driver MAY be my last, so I wanted to "get it right." I may not make it to 1 million miles with my new driver, but 15,000 miles per year for another decade or so is possible. Adding 150,000 miles to a rig with over 150,000 of use is not an attractive option, so my first priority when I began the search was low miles along with gentle use and a known backstory.
WHERE
Looking at features, price and condition of US models, I realized that my best option given my preferences (see below) was an import spec vehicle eligible for legal importation. JDM rigs were considered but a) I am not a fan of RHD and b) Japanese market 100s are often spec'd at same levels or higher than US models. A number of makes, models and configurations were considered, including new LC 250, GX 550, INEOS Grenadier, Sequoia, Rivian, etc.
WHAT
I ended up buying a 2000 model year 42,000 mile GCC (Gulf Cooperation Council) spec UZJ 100 in VXR trim. It was owned for first 23 years by original owner, an older guy who drove it for 10+ years and then declined in health so it mostly sat for more years. Second owner was local to @Meshal (discovered after my purchase) and then went through another individual and then a dealer before @mechal acquired it on my behalf. We have he Saudi version of Carfax and it is confirmed mileage and ownership. Condition was 10 out of 10 subject to some paint correction and replacement of sun faded trim and a light service of Tbelt, cooling, ball joints and shocks/springs. Condition, mileage and backstory/provinance - CHECK
The GCC vehicles are generally well fitted, but differ greatly from US rigs. Diesel is an option (not my preference) but otherwise, the higher spec VX/VXRs have what I was looking for - 2UZ motor, H151 manual transmission, cloth seats, no sunroof, no roof rack, no ABS or ACH, no immobilizer or security system, knob dial old school AM/FM radio with good speakers, second / aux sub tank, flat white paint vs. pearl, etc. and 95% commonality with US spec 100 Series. Specifications / equipment - CHECK
With some minor upgrades (BT receiver for my iPhone, seat heat kits, Desert Does It seat Jackers, TOYO AT IIIs to replace the new Dunlops it came with, etc.) it is a perfect fit for my city, highway and fire road travels, with ability to tow a family camp trailer. I have driven it every day since collection at @wngrog's compound in Mississippi, including 2,000 miles to get it home to Boise. Stunning performance, total comfort and many smiles per gallon. In town it is perfect - great vision from the best greenhouse design I have experienced, responsive performance from the 5 speed / clutch, etc. Intended use - CHECK.
Other options were more expensive than my final tab and did not meet my needs. This 100 Series did. When looking at options, I found my total cost of acquisition was a good deal and I would do it again. I am basically driving a one-owner 100 Series with under 50,000 miles, fitted out to my needs - no exceptions or unwanted equipment/features.
PRICE AND VALUE - Summary
- At around $50,000 landed cost with improvements, less than new Toyota, Lexus or INEOS to suit my needs, wants and preferences.
- I paid twice the cost of the "average" 100 Series, per the BAT data, which is less than perfect but better than no data.
- Did I pay too much based upon my needs, wants and preferences? No, not in my opinion.
- Are we in a soft market? I don't know.
- Do I care? No.
I think in general the Land Cruiser market has been soft this year, across all models but especially the 40/45 series, which are affected by the flood of imports from all corners of the world. The 60/62 market has rebounded a bit lately, it seems, 80s have been pretty flat and 100s slightly downward. Exceptions to the above are low-mileage vehicles or those in exceptional condition or that have high-end modifications (like superchargers, high dollar accessories).
One of my neighbors has a nice early 100 (98 or 99) that he told me he was selling, and he was WAY off one his asking price. I showed him what the market is doing but I think he's trying to recover some of the baselining/repairs expense and that's not going to happen.
As @wardharris points out above, it's a deeply personal experience heavily based on your own needs/preferences. $50K for what is essentially a perfect rig for him seems like a great deal to me, I have more than $50K in my own 100 (almost 19 years of ownership and a lot of maintenance/repairs/upgrades over that period) and I feel the same way he does when I drive mine, and unlike his, mine's not worth anywhere close to the $50K!
One of my neighbors has a nice early 100 (98 or 99) that he told me he was selling, and he was WAY off one his asking price. I showed him what the market is doing but I think he's trying to recover some of the baselining/repairs expense and that's not going to happen.
As @wardharris points out above, it's a deeply personal experience heavily based on your own needs/preferences. $50K for what is essentially a perfect rig for him seems like a great deal to me, I have more than $50K in my own 100 (almost 19 years of ownership and a lot of maintenance/repairs/upgrades over that period) and I feel the same way he does when I drive mine, and unlike his, mine's not worth anywhere close to the $50K!
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@wardharris, I absolutely love your GCC choice but am curious if you considered a later model 200 series, that option wasn’t on you list of contenders. I figure one could find a sub 100k 2017 in the mid 50k range. Also, as a native to Boise, glad to see you in my neck of the woods. Hope to run into sometime and check out that new ride.
Market indeed may have softened up a bit. We just picked up another 2006 LX470 with 172k for $16500 from a dealer who wanted $21k for it. Usually those things with under 200k miles fly off the shelf like hot cakes for the asking price, at least in our neck of the woods.