35's on a FJ60

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phoenixrider said:
How do like the Alcan springs? I've been researching and they are on the top of my list, besides the OME Dakkar


Well so far I love them :) I havent had them on the road or offroad yet. Still working out little items on getting my lift finished. Hit me up with a PM in about 2 wks to a month and I will let you know.
(I bought my springs and shackles slightly used) I would say that they could add an inch onto to rear of the rear spring pack, as I have seen suggested on other threads, just to give a better shackle angle. However, I do not see my angle being an issue.

They are very flexycompared to stock stuff, but htis could be the greas. pins, shackles and poly bushings. My stock stuff, was rusted, rubber was like steel (didnt alow movement and was basically grafted to the bolts.), and leafs were falling apart in the rear. I also do not have shocks on yet.
 
awesome see this Kian Sorento on moab .. ! did you have specs .. ? diesel or gas engine .. suspension .. ' locker . ? size of those tires .?
 
Peepers - that is one cool looking LC! But, I am looking at the 60 - 2F engine, manual trans, old school :) otherwise, an awesome rig!

The KIA is stock except for the OME (2.5 in) and 32 in tires. Open IFS front, LSD solid axle in rear. Coils all around. Part time 4wd. i pushed that thing hard!

This is the type of trail I want to take the 60 on - without the aid of a winch:
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okay... keep it in mind if you change yours... i think the 60 is a great truck and you will dominate a trail the one above...
 
To run AZ trails, I would do a SOA and a Toybox. Heck, I can't *WAIT* to go back to Florence Junction now that I have that combo!

Seriously, don't waste a lot of money trying to stuff 35's under a 60 with a SUA, you're much better off with a low SOA. Better articulation, a better ride.

Last week I wheeled at Katemcy with another FJ60 that ran the same 35" tires and was locked at both ends, just like mine. We did the same obstacles and the capabilities were comparable, but the ride on mine is MUCH, MUCH better, especially over the rocks. Just my humble opinion....

You can see from the pic below that my SOA is pretty low:
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SOA is the best way to go, for all reasons he just mentioned...$$$, articulation, clearance (SUA will catch rocks and obstacles that the axle would normally just slide over with SOA).

Those are 37s, I've driven it with a set of 39.5s before, on a rim with major backspacing...but they cleared for pavement and steering...that was right after my lift, which was a total of 12 1/2", but I've lost almost 2" since then bcuz we rearched the springs.
My FJ62 still clears 38.5s with no rub and 5 folks in the cabin. This may be beyond what most cruiser folk want, but just making the point of SOA.
 
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since it's all about clearance for the moment, here's a pic of my lift right after completion with my 33X12.50s!!! Then a recent pic, in which I now have 38" Swamper TSLs on the rear, neither rub /hit even when loaded down (we had 7 passengers in the ONF just two months ago).

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Oh yeah, that's my Gma next to the cruiser! lol

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so something i have wondered about SOA is this: what about sagging springs?

so far as i've seen most SOA rigs use stock springs to avoid too much lift (right?) so how does one level out the vehicle? if the typical ass sag is present with the stock springs it'll still be there SOA. do you use the shortest lift springs you can find? have the old ones arched back to stock (delaying the inevitable re-sag)

just curious mostly
 
Maybe a stupid question but how does one acheive a low SOA..... I'd rather go with this option but have only seen SOA's that seem huge. Exiled's seems more proportionate for what Im looking to do. Is it in the springs, perches, shackles...????

Thanks,

Chase
 
Probably would want to eventualy go SOA. I know me - hard is never hard enough! I'm always trying o go places I shouldn't be going :)

A couple bad things I've heard about SO is axle warp/hop, and the DD aspects of it. I'm sure for spring Alcan would be a good choice.

I guess the other thing is cost. While I can weld and fab, with the front in particlar, you gotta get all the angles right, redo the caster, etc.. That I don't know if I'd want to take on myself...
 
Stocks springs are a good option in all cases .. flat off course if you don't want more tire room. And also good shocks you are ready. Axle wrap is always an issue in SO vehicles .. but aren't dificult to solve ..

track bar .. your answer.

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Chase77 said:
Maybe a stupid question but how does one acheive a low SOA..... I'd rather go with this option but have only seen SOA's that seem huge. Exiled's seems more proportionate for what Im looking to do. Is it in the springs, perches, shackles...????

Thanks,

Chase


Mine's de-arched OME heavy-duty springs, stock hangers (welded for safety), two sets of the SHORT OME anti-inversion shackles, and a very heavy truck. Truck sits at 77" at its highest point, not much higher than my buddy Dave's SUA FJ60 running the same size tires (35's).
 
^^^ Yeah, thats what I've been looking for. I'm currently working on my SOA project. I'll be using my stock springs, I want to keep it at about 5"s of lift. I'll let you know how it goes.

Other than brake lines and the debate to cut and turn I'm ready to start the work. I'll let you know when I'm done Chase77.
 
Soa

Got an email response back from Proffitts regarding the cut n turn they do on axles for the SO conersion. They're saying on the 60, it's really not neccasary like on the 40, which you have to do. So, why does everybody with 60's do it then?
 
phoenixrider from what I understand is that it helps the with the driveline/ujoint angles. Helps to keep them from binding up with higher lifts. I think if I was looking for 7" or more inches I would cut and turn to make it as easy on the driveline as possible. But where I want 5"s and thats it, it shouldn't be a problem. This is what I've been told by a few on here and the shop thats going to do the work.

I supposed if you have a pre-late 85 cruiser it may help with the front or something? I know they changed out the transfer cases in the late 85 models and there are some issues SOAing the front half of the earlier ones. What I've seen most do though is just get the later transfercase.

my understandings in their limited forms ;)
 
I have heard on the 40 boards that its not always needed on a 40. I have heard on here that it was almost always needed on a 60 series?
 

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