BJ70 Project: Horton

[bull]

We just bought a BJ70 and really like it. That being said the wife wants it improved. The idea is to build a capable wheeler off and on the road. So I need to maintain the best of both worlds.

Here is the rig


So here lies the rub, conundrum, and or crazyness.

What to do? What to use?


Phase one: drivetrain


Here is what I have at my disposal to use.

-Complete FZJ80 Drivetrain (including electric lockers)

-Complete FJ60 SOA axles with hysteer

-OME lift




What would you do?

[wesintl]

turbo with 60 axles.. or 80 axles and ome. I always thought a 1fzfe 70 would be bitchin but I'd hate to ruin the diesel aspect.

[hoser]

I would keep 3B and turbo it. Then install FZJ80 locking axles so you would save money on lockers. The stock 4.1 ratio of the 80 series axles should work fine with 33" tires. Wiring up the lockers might be a small challenge.

[bj70_guy]

How big a tire do you want to run?

[bull]

Going to keep the 3B and turbo it.
35"-37" with 4.88 gears

[bull]

Originally Posted by hoser

I would keep 3B and turbo it. Then install FZJ80 locking axles so you would save money on lockers. The stock 4.1 ratio of the 80 series axles should work fine with 33" tires. Wiring up the lockers might be a small challenge.

The 80 axles are pretty wide aren't they? Wiring the lockers are a breeze. I have done several.

[clownmidget]

I say a big "NO" on using the 80 axles. The birfields are the largest easily available ones but the knuckles are the problem. The "low steer" set up is difficult to overcome and even with Slee's use of the RHD steering arm and modifying the upper ABS hole it just ends up looking a bit booty-fab. Nice cnc'd booty-fab but compare that to a nice 4x4Labs or Marlin hi-steer set up on the 60 axles. If you go with the 60 axles the Longfields and chromo axle shafts, etc are all going to hold up to that engine and vehicle weight. Plus I think the e-lockers are overrated and are possibly inherently weaker than using ARB's and their carrier.

[Gold Boy]

why not a set of 74 cable locker axles?

[bull]

Originally Posted by Gold Boy

why not a set of 74 cable locker axles?

I don't have those laying around. I have everything in stock that I listed

[bull]

Originally Posted by clownmidget

I say a big "NO" on using the 80 axles. The birfields are the largest easily available ones but the knuckles are the problem. The "low steer" set up is difficult to overcome and even with Slee's use of the RHD steering arm and modifying the upper ABS hole it just ends up looking a bit booty-fab. Nice cnc'd booty-fab but compare that to a nice 4x4Labs or Marlin hi-steer set up on the 60 axles. If you go with the 60 axles the Longfields and chromo axle shafts, etc are all going to hold up to that engine and vehicle weight. Plus I think the e-lockers are overrated and are possibly inherently weaker than using ARB's and their carrier.

Would 80 axles using it's spring perches and links elminate the booty fab?

[roscoFJ73]

Sell the 80 stuff ,do a 2-3 lift with 33s ,fit lockers and turbo it.

IMO it will outperform 99.9% of all drivers without massive tyres.

[Gold Boy]

Originally Posted by bull

I don't have those laying around. I have everything in stock that I listed

because you are located in Washington state and close to JDM parts, sell your parts and purchase a set of cable lockers from G&S or someone.

however, still sounds like you a have great plan...

[Gold Boy]

Originally Posted by roscoFJ73

Sell the 80 stuff ,do a 2-3 lift with 33s ,fit lockers and turbo it.

IMO it will outperform 99.9% of all drivers without massive tyres.

x2

btw, should be project Tim Horton, imho

[bull]

Originally Posted by Gold Boy

x2

btw, should be project Tim Horton, imho

Haha that is exactly why we named it that...



"Hey go down the road and make a left at Tim Hortons"

[Gold Boy]

Originally Posted by bull

Haha that is exactly why we named it that...



"Hey go down the road and make a left at Tim Hortons"

[hoser]

Originally Posted by bull

The 80 axles are pretty wide aren't they? Wiring the lockers are a breeze. I have done several.

Yeah, they are probably about 4-5" longer. Scratch the 80 series axles. I was just thinking from a cost perspective... lockers and gearing.

[wesintl]

turbo and spring it over with 60 axles like lowenbrau
Find a ff rear throw the locker in sell the front for another rear and put that in the front.

either way IMHO you'll want more than ome for 35-37's

here's another
Cruiser Outfitters

[bull]

I have seen pics of that rig. Very nice!

[hks3sgte]

Originally Posted by roscoFJ73

Sell the 80 stuff ,do a 2-3 lift with 33s ,fit lockers and turbo it.

IMO it will outperform 99.9% of all drivers without massive tyres.

x3

OME, 33s, turbo/intercooler, ARB lockers, call it a day.

[Gold Boy]

Originally Posted by hks3sgte

x3

OME, 33s, turbo/intercooler, ARB lockers, call it a day.

very similar to what the competition guys are running.

[mreekster]

I thought canadian 25 yr or less were inadmissable into the us, is it registered now?

[Gold Boy]

Originally Posted by mreekster

I thought canadian 25 yr or less were inadmissable into the us, is it registered now?

it's a Canadian 70 not jdm

[IronYuppy]

Originally Posted by mreekster

I thought canadian 25 yr or less were inadmissable into the us, is it registered now?

If it was manufactured for the North American market and imported/sold as new by a dealer in Canada or the US, it can be exported into either country regardless of age.

Note: I took a wrong turn at the 80 forum... that's why I'm here.

[bull]

What Gold Boy said.. pretty easy getting it in..

[bull]

Originally Posted by wesintl

turbo and spring it over with 60 axles like lowenbrau
Find a ff rear throw the locker in sell the front for another rear and put that in the front.

either way IMHO you'll want more than ome for 35-37's

here's another
Cruiser Outfitters

I'm going to keep it SUA for now. Doing some measurements in the shop and I'm not sure I like how high it will be after a SOA. Now I need to giddy up so we can take it to CM08