Would you prefer a PHEV?

[2000m2]

Figured this would be an interesting discussion. Assuming Toyota could have used a Li-ion pack in the J250, providing 40 mi of EV range like the RAV4 Prime, would this be preferred?

Yes, I am hoping this will become available at some point in the near future. It would be a nice MPG improvement over our current V8 4Runner, especially around town.

 

[Canyonero]

Figured this would be an interesting discussion. Assuming Toyota could have used a Li-ion pack in the J250, providing 40 mi of EV range like the RAV4 Prime, would this be preferred?

Yes. I own a Prius Prime PHEV and a Wrangler Rubicon PHEV. Both are pretty incredible, and for the Jeep in particular, I use very little gas.

Frankly, it’s wild to be driving a lifted Rubicon on 37s around town and never use gas. Most of my trips are sub 10 miles and I have a level 2 charger. Often I will charge it back up at lunch. Even with 37s, lift, winch, etc. I’m still seeing over 20 miles on EV only.

For short trips-which is a lot of the suburban lifestyle-PHEVs are the best of everything, EV most of the time power and range when you want to do a longer trip

Side note-my use case makes an argument for PHEVs being the best environmental solution for many people. Smaller batteries mean less material, while rarely using ICE mode means less pollution.

 

[TWILLY]

Side note-my use case makes an argument for PHEVs being the best environmental solution for many people. Smaller batteries mean less material, while rarely using ICE mode means less pollution.

Your use case, with PHEVs, is a very efficient use of globally limited transportation battery capacity. Lots of GHG (and other) pollution reduction per unit of deployed battery capacity.

 

[Sandroad]

PHEV is my favorite drivetrain. I hope manufacturers head that way until EV charging infrastructure is built out.

 

[fro20fow]

Yes, a plug-in hybrid is awesome. We have a XC90 PHEV and it gets about 33 miles on the battery only. We get about 700+ miles from a 18.8 gallon tank. Really depends on how far out we drive. When I dive to the city, 15 miles. Battery on surface streets and ICE on highway. My game is to leave the house on full battery and arrive with zero battery. It is also nice when you want to move the car 20 feet out of the driveway. No ICE necessary. The engines should last way longer. One note, the dealer does not have a way to tell how often (miles) the engine ran between oil changes.

How are you liking your Xc90? We are looking at a 24 t8 ultimate right now.

 

[JMSLX]

How are you liking your Xc90? We are looking at a 24 t8 ultimate right now.

My wife has a 2018 XC90 T6 and outside of an AC coolant leak last month, it's been flawless. She loves it. I personally wish it had more physical buttons, but she likes the touch screen interface.