I know there's some big Ford I drive by in Ouray that was REALLY quiet. I could tell it was a diesel but barely. He was going up a switchback and on the gas and it was smooth.
Who cares about looks! Is there a diesel option??
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I know there's some big Ford I drive by in Ouray that was REALLY quiet. I could tell it was a diesel but barely. He was going up a switchback and on the gas and it was smooth.
The modern cdi Mercedes is much more quiet than that. To the point that the MB sales reps will take people in diesels first and not even tell them.
I am sure a modern toyota twin turbo would be very quiet.
I am sure a modern toyota twin turbo would be very quiet.
You've obviously never driven a modern diesel vehicle. The torque delivery and smoothness is impressive.
The 1HD-FTE is an excellent engine, the new V8 will be better again.There is no reason to buy a petrol 100 series over a diesel 100 series.
Unless of course you're stuck in a country that doesn't give you the choice.
Right On, Dougal 
cruiser_guy
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When GM had their "diesel" 350 that EVERYONE will agree was the biggest POS to ever find it's way into a mass marketed vehicle they were also put in their upper market vehicles.
The reason that diesel is hated by many in the US is that engine. Thanks GM for screwing the buying public for the past decade or more!!
As others have said, the new diesels are quiet, smooth, responsive and are a FAR better engine than most comparible gassers. The diesels that every 3/4 ton pickup has is a COMMERCIAL diesel. The diesels in passenger cars are designed for passenger cars and that design calls for quiet, smooth and responsive engines. The 3/4 ton pickup diesels are for pulling and they can out pull ANY gasser.
You buy the gasser 'Cruiser and the rest of us with diesels will pass you at the pump, up the hills and most everyway else too!!
Rub it in next time !!!
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I've read otherwise. I heard they were close though.
first time thru this post
cannot believe there is even a debate going on!
schotts, which oil company do you invest in?
i am hard pressed not to drive my 03 tdi VW jetta (55mpg almost everywhere) at all times
TOYOTA, BRING U.S. THE DIESELS!
I would buy one.
cannot believe there is even a debate going on!
schotts, which oil company do you invest in?
i am hard pressed not to drive my 03 tdi VW jetta (55mpg almost everywhere) at all times
TOYOTA, BRING U.S. THE DIESELS!
I would buy one.
None.
Waggoner5
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My Touareg V10 TDI was easily as smooth running and almost as quiet as any gas engine car/truck I have owned. The VW would also run circles around most of my gassers and would easily outperform a 100 series in every way except serious off roading. All of this still and still getting over 22 MPG. If Toyota would bring us the TDI V8 I have read about, the gas trucks, even the 5.7, would have a hard time competing in all around performance and MPG testing.
And reliability
And reliability
And reliability
And reliability
ANY off-roading
ANY off-roading
ANY off-roading
ANY off-roading
22MPG means nothing to me. Reliability means everything. Don't want to smell diesel is a close second.
Yeah, and you got George Bush as well.
You bet. We're lucky to have him (instead of some wishy washy whimp).
Waggoner5
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My VW was never in the shop, up to 60k miles. Sold it at that point. And as far as offroading goes, I wheeled it with a group of 100 series guys and it went everywhere they went without issue. Hardcore it is not, but neither is the 100 series right.....? My point is that Diesels do make sense and WILL sell in the US once the public sees that they make more power, get better fuel economy, last longer, burn clean, and are quiet. Give John a CDI Mercedes for a week and he will change his mind. You can't compare a Powerstroke or any American Diesel to what the Europeans have and thats the problem. We as Americans are used to loud smelly diesels, but the new generation diesels will change even the sceptics point of view.
You bet. We're lucky to have him (instead of some wishy washy whimp).
At least until 2008 ....
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You bet. We're lucky to have him (instead of some wishy washy whimp).
wow
could these topics be linked together?????
Shouldn't it read At most until 2008 
At least until 2008 ....
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cruiser_guy
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Reliability is a diesels forte!! Can your 100 series go for 300,000 miles without worry? Would you drive from Canada to Central America with it at that point? Folks I've been out with comment that when they follow behind my 25 year old diesel they can't smell the diesel odor. Newer engines are even better, it that is possible.
I agree reliability is everything and THAT is why it will be a diesel for me!!
