What Would You Do? Emergency Tech.

[Trollhole]

So most of us have been a situation on the trail or somewhere where parts are not available but you need to keep it running and limp it off the trail or someplace you can get parts. I thought I'd throw a couple of scenarios out there and see what we have as far as answers. As we get through them others can chime in with more scenarios and keep the thread going.

In order to keep it simple and eventually put it in a form that everyone can understand we can do two things. So I'll start the first three. Number your answers to match the scenario number

Scenario

#1 You snapped a rear pinion on the trail. Your drive shaft is dangling. What do you do? (open diff, lunch box, air, factory)

#2 You rolled your vehicle and finally have got it back upright. What should you do in order to get it started again?

#3 You broke a birfield on the left front. You have no spares and it is almost impossible to turn the wheels. What do you do?

 

[MILLHOUSE]

#1 Have a

#2 Have a

#3 Have a

 

[Trollhole]

#1 Have a

#2 Have a

#3 Have a

Did that with me and you would get kicked off the trail, out of the club and probably get beaten up.

 

[landcrusher909]

Did that with me and you would get kicked off the trail, out of the club and probably get beaten up.

so did this happen ?

 

[spotcruiser]

#1 - Pull the rear drive shaft and drive out with just front drive. Done that, more or less.

#2 - Depending on how long it's been laying on it's top, might want to pull the plugs and crank it to make sure there isn't a lot of oil in the cylinders. Otherwise, look it over to make sure nothing has shifted or bent causing interferences, then crank it up and drive it.

#3 - Pull the failed birf. Drive it home in 2wd.

So most of us have been a situation on the trail or somewhere where parts are not available but you need to keep it running and limp it off the trail or someplace you can get parts. I thought I'd throw a couple of scenarios out there and see what we have as far as answers. As we get through them others can chime in with more scenarios and keep the thread going.

In order to keep it simple and eventually put it in a form that everyone can understand we can do two things. So I'll start the first three. Number your answers to match the scenario number

Scenario

#1 You snapped a rear pinion on the trail. Your drive shaft is dangling. What do you do? (open diff, lunch box, air, factory)

#2 You rolled your vehicle and finally have got it back upright. What should you do in order to get it started again?

#3 You broke a birfield on the left front. You have no spares and it is almost impossible to turn the wheels. What do you do?

 

[calstyl2]

I have done the first two

1. disconect rear lockercenter pin so axles free spin, towed off Golden Spike by a XJ

2. Righted it with a highlift jack cause it was only on its side pined to door, fixed broken pos SOR spring enough to limp off Behind the Rocks trail....

 

[cruiser_guy]

#1 You snapped a rear pinion on the trail. Your drive shaft is dangling. What do you do? (open diff, lunch box, air, factory)

Seen this with only the pinion nut missing. They made it out OK without further issues. Pull the shaft and head out in front wheel drive. Pay attention for nasty noises from the rear indicating the imminent destruction of the remainder of the pinion and ring gear as it falls into the diff!

#2 You rolled your vehicle and finally have got it back upright. What should you do in order to get it started again?

Been here with "NickW" about two years ago with his HDJ81! Right it, check fluid levels and top up as necessary (we were down nearly a gallon of ATF). Bump the starter to see if we have hydro lock from engine oil in the cylinders. If hydrolocked pull the plugs to purge oil, fire it up and head out! We were unable to drive out as we did not have the gallon of ATF with us so we walked and came back the next day with my BJ60.

#3 You broke a birfield on the left front. You have no spares and it is almost impossible to turn the wheels. What do you do?

Pull the birfield and put it all back together again sans birfield and inner axle as necessary and head out.

 

[matt.mcinnes]

1 Pull the diff center and drive home in front wheel drive. Plastic bag taped over the empty pumpkin is a good idea too. FF rears rock. Pull the axles too.

2 Start it right up wait for the smoke to stop and carry on wheeling (not recommended)

3 Pull the CV and carry on wheeling (front locker in)

When ever possible carry on wheeling and just winch a little more often

 

[Trollhole]

#1

Had a rig in the group that snapped a pinion. Would only go in reverse because the remainder of the pinion was wedged in the carrier. Took cover off yanked the lunch box locker. Just left the outer halves luckliy we had a the center pin block. Installed it and just let the wheels free wheel.

I guess another option would be to yank the whole diff out and remove the pinion.

 

[Trollhole]

Scenario

#4 Break a leaf spring at either end.

#5 Break a steering arm.

#6 burn the whole electrical system up. (Basically have to hot wire it)

 

[Degnol]

Scenario

#1 You snapped a rear pinion on the trail. Your drive shaft is dangling. What do you do? (open diff, lunch box, air, factory)

#2 You rolled your vehicle and finally have got it back upright. What should you do in order to get it started again?

#3 You broke a birfield on the left front. You have no spares and it is almost impossible to turn the wheels. What do you do?

If you did this all at the same time (multiple mechanical failures, I think the aviation industry calls it) You should go get another hobby

 

[amaurer]

Here's a little different take:

#1 You snapped a rear pinion on the trail. Your drive shaft is dangling. What do you do? (open diff, lunch box, air, factory)

Pull driveshaft and axle shafts, drive out/home, then feel good about having a FF rear.

#2 You rolled your vehicle and finally have got it back upright. What should you do in order to get it started again?

Check/top off fluids. Pull glow plugs and EDIC linkage and crank with the injector pump in the "Off" position. Reinstall, start, go home.

#3 You broke a birfield on the left front. You have no spares and it is almost impossible to turn the wheels. What do you do?

... pull out the blackberry and start posting "REALTIME!! __________" threads on mud while I explore the inside of the front axle for the first time trying to get the birf out.

 

[ohrly?]

#4. walk
#5, walk
#6, best be driving a diesel

 

[calstyl2]

#1

Had a rig in the group that snapped a pinion. Would only go in reverse because the remainder of the pinion was wedged in the carrier. Took cover off yanked the lunch box locker. Just left the outer halves luckliy we had a the center pin block. Installed it and just let the wheels free wheel.

I guess another option would be to yank the whole diff out and remove the pinion.

 

[andrewfarmer]

3 Pull the CV and carry on wheeling (front locker in)

Not recommended - a real handful when going downhill under engine braking as will pull very strongly to the side that still has a birf in it. Vehicle may well roll (mine did )

 

[Degnol]

Actually you have posted before

 

[andrewfarmer]

Scenario

#4 Break a leaf spring at either end.


#5 Break a steering arm.


#6 burn the whole electrical system up. (Basically have to hot wire it)

4: wire, duck tape and a hi-lift handle. Ratchet tie-downs are handy as well.

5: wire, duck tape and a hi-lift handle.
Alternatively, one can drive a bit, then stop and get out and turn the wheels, get back in a drive a bit more until home. Have driven 20 miles like this - now have much stronger steering componants.

6: My 2f needs 2 wires to run - no problem.

 

[MILLHOUSE]

Did that with me and you would get kicked off the trail, out of the club and probably get beaten up.

 

[Trollhole]

4: wire, duck tape and a hi-lift handle. Ratchet tie-downs are handy as well.

5: wire, duck tape and a hi-lift handle.
Alternatively, one can drive a bit, then stop and get out and turn the wheels, get back in a drive a bit more until home. Have driven 20 miles like this - now have much stronger steering componants.

6: My 2f needs 2 wires to run - no problem.

So what would be the two wires?

Just so everyone knows.

 

[Josie'sLandCruiser]

Hi All:

"Trollhole," great thread!

Folks have already answered the questions very well so far. I do have to comment that I have busted a right-hand side Birfield joint and driven home 150 or so miles with it in there, no issues.

Regards,

Alan