I say it's underrated because more people should be using it. It's bloody awesome! When I first installed my system and was asking for advice on forums people like that guy above kept saying it's useless and dangerous and is better to upgrade other parts. They are completely wrong. I have no idea why people are so against it, especially those who have never actually tested it and tell people to not do it.
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If it was I would think they would call it the same thing.
I buy mine from my local oil distributor
Oh. I have limited experience with this stuff. I've only had it for ~20 years.
Yes it's very different on a petrol engine. Diesels are over 4psi boost just in highway cruise.
Good to know it also falls under these other names.
might also know methanol as methyl alcohol, methyl hydrate, carbinol, wood alcohol or wood spirit.
might also know methanol as methyl alcohol, methyl hydrate, carbinol, wood alcohol or wood spirit.
Yeah your right more people should be using it.
Of course. I also have a BJ74 and a 1989 Dodge-Cummins that I bought new. Neither of which are water injected
Sure I can get from local petroleum supplier but if there’s another source out there if I need it right away I’m glad it’s available in many retailers.
There you go... call a spade, a spade.
By the way, that stuff is really flammable (don't ask me how l know) even when diluted by half. Treat it like any other fuel system.
I been told it burns like alcohol so it s hard to see the flames.
Not only that but it gives you fuel enrichment to help with a lean condition. At least in a gasoline application
Seems pretty amazing.
I’ve been reading the manual for this and I am leaning towards the diesel stage 3 because you can have 2 adjustments or modes for injecting water meth. By boost % and by EGT(tow mode). Seems like a pretty nice controller. But I’m wondering if I would need the tank or would I be fine with just the washer Reservoir.
Also choices. Nylon or go with the braided lines?
ok yeah my bad..
anyways here is a Diesel FAQ lots of good info seems like all +++ to me
ok yeah my bad..
anyways here is a Diesel FAQ lots of good info seems like all +++ to me
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With a proper tune none of those issues exist. The fuel economy claim is rubbish as you're simply feeding it more fuel.
If you have a dangerous tune (smokey, high EGT etc) and you use water/methanol to try and control it then you're back in danger as soon as the water/methanol runs out.
If you use water/methanol as a power adder then you stress your engine a lot more than adding fuel and boost does.
100% everything in moderation.
Using water/meth injection as a power adder is actually less stress on your engine. Don't take advice from people commenting about stuff they have never used or tested. More power is made much more safely due to the igniting delay and the higher cylinder pressures from this increase of power is occurring well after TDC. When you increase fuel and boost to make more power it causes the higher cylinder pressures to spike closer to and even before TDC in a lot of cases. Water/meth injection is by far one on the best upgrades you can do to a diesel engine.
Here's some more articles I found in a 30 second google search on just some basic info about water/meth for those looking for easy articles to read without getting into all the in depth SAE research papers;
www.dieselworldmag.com
www.dieselarmy.com
Here's some more articles I found in a 30 second google search on just some basic info about water/meth for those looking for easy articles to read without getting into all the in depth SAE research papers;
Water Methanol Injection: More Power, Less EGT
Water Methanol Injection: More Power, Less EGT Some of the most underrated performance parts in the industry are water-methanol injection systems.
www.dieselworldmag.com
Water/Methanol Injection: How It Works And What It Does
Water/Methanol Injection is agreat way to boost power. QWhether it's the right way to do that in your truck is up to you.
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2LTE abuser
One thing that should be noted here that I have personal experience with. Water/Meth doesn't work as well on IDI. I find when pre-cups get good and hot in summer at high load, a 50/50 mix of water/meth actually pre-ignites before diesel is injected. This is with 21:1 compression and ~18-20psi intercooled. It sounds terrible and is likely very hard on the piston ring lands. Winter it works much better.
TDI wouldn't have this problem with it's lack of pre-cup and lower compression.
My system definitely adds a lot of power. But I have a 10mm IP, and the motor runs pretty lean. ie. the pump can't keep up. So there's lots of extra air left to burn the extra fuel. If I had a 12mm IP, I probably wouldn't bother with Water/Meth to be honest. I've got a 1KZTE 12mm pump and extra 2LTE 10mm pump with new seal kits. Plan is to merge the two into a 12mm IP for my 2LTE.
TDI wouldn't have this problem with it's lack of pre-cup and lower compression.
My system definitely adds a lot of power. But I have a 10mm IP, and the motor runs pretty lean. ie. the pump can't keep up. So there's lots of extra air left to burn the extra fuel. If I had a 12mm IP, I probably wouldn't bother with Water/Meth to be honest. I've got a 1KZTE 12mm pump and extra 2LTE 10mm pump with new seal kits. Plan is to merge the two into a 12mm IP for my 2LTE.
