TJM 50 mm progressive kit update

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So I have had my suspension for about a year now and I can report back on the kit now that the honeymoon is over. Mine was the progressive coil 50 mm kit with adjustable dampers, castor correction and steering damper.

On road - The steering is vaguer, could be the tires...could be the bushing alignment, whatever it is its a lot more work to keep strait on the freeway. The fronts feel great and haven't sagged at all but the rears have sagged about an inch (from 38.5 floor to well, to 37.5) and it appears and feels as though the progressive coils are either entirely or mostly out of play in coil bind.

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I also took a few chucks of paint off. they look like they have sagged more than an inch from fresh install, but now the truck is 100% level.

Off Road - The progressive springs aren't great off road. On the white rim it wasn't bad because the trail was mild and the truck was loaded but empty or on a rougher trail like elephant hill and the rebound control is way out of whack with the compression. If my time as a bicycle mechanic taught me anything about suspension its that if you had to choose only one suspension trait to be adjustable it should be the rebound and these shocks only close the valve equally for both compression and rebound. If you could fix the compression rate and adjust just the rebound, these would be great but right now you have to choose between a harsh initial hit and controlled head motions or a properly damped hit and a little more bob. Annoying.

I'm also annoyed at the fact that the rear springs are basically just acting as a spacer and that the progressive coils don't seem to be doing much. The fronts look much better and, honestly, I wonder if they are even progressive at all, they sure don't look it.

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The shocks are holding up great, but the stickers were toast immediately, and as you can see in the above picture, the rod stone guard is rubbing away the paint on the body a little. I was worried about the durability of the control knob for the adjustments, but they still click nicely and haven't been ripped off.

Someone said once that they loved TJM shocks but their springs weren't very good...i might be inclined to agree. The rumor is that foam cell shocks break down with big heat...so far i either haven't got them hot enough, long enough...or it isn't an issue as they are working well. I might be getting some OME medium linears for the rear and ditch these after less than a year (but 15,000 miles)

Overall I would not recommend the progressive kit as they are totally linear after only a short time and the only added weight on the truck is sliders. Shame.
 
Thanks for the great review!
 
Thanks for the review. I only have the springs so my experience is pretty different.

After about 1 year I really don't have any sag to speak of but I run empty 99% of the time.
On the road the ride is really nice and cushy
Steering is slight vague but that's due to the soft initial compression
I have fox IFP shocks and they match great with the springs, rebound valving is awesome on the fox
Off road I only used it a couple of times but flexed great and felt great, was Not harsh at all and I attribute that to the fox shocks
I do think the front needs a bit more weight so looking into bumpers with winch or at least winch in factory bumper
Because I have basically No weight beside a set of opor sliders I have more than 50mm of lift, close to 3 if I had to guess. At all 4 corners my rig is exactly 1 inch lower than NLXTACY's rig which has 4 inch slee lift but has a lot more weight.

So far very happy with my TJM springs and best thing I did was to get fox shocks to match them......it's like butta!
 
Thanks for the review. I only have the springs so my experience is pretty different.

After about 1 year I really don't have any sag to speak of but I run empty 99% of the time.
On the road the ride is really nice and cushy
Steering is slight vague but that's due to the soft initial compression
I have fox IFP shocks and they match great with the springs, rebound valving is awesome on the fox
Off road I only used it a couple of times but flexed great and felt great, was Not harsh at all and I attribute that to the fox shocks
I do think the front needs a bit more weight so looking into bumpers with winch or at least winch in factory bumper
Because I have basically No weight beside a set of opor sliders I have more than 50mm of lift, close to 3 if I had to guess. At all 4 corners my rig is exactly 1 inch lower than NLXTACY's rig which has 4 inch slee lift but has a lot more weight.

So far very happy with my TJM springs and best thing I did was to get fox shocks to match them......it's like butta!

I suspect you are right with the Fox Shocks analysis, With the progressive springs its the rebound control that matters and the fox would be superior to the TJM in that regard.
 
Bumping this thread back as I'm due for a suspension refresher. Was considering this kit but have my doubts.
Any other TJMers care to update? Now I'm thinking OME springs with Fox shocks.
 
I take it you didn't get the adjustable shocks. It does make a difference - as you have found - being able to control the dampening.

I loved them while I had them, but I will agree the rears won't hold up well offroad when you're carrying a lot of weight.
 
I take it you didn't get the adjustable shocks. It does make a difference - as you have found - being able to control the dampening.

I loved them while I had them, but I will agree the rears won't hold up well offroad when you're carrying a lot of weight.

Mine are the adjustable. They only control bound and rebound in lock step, which doesn't make sense for progressive loads
 
Bumping this thread back as I'm due for a suspension refresher. Was considering this kit but have my doubts.
Any other TJMers care to update? Now I'm thinking OME springs with Fox shocks.


Still liking my tjm and fox combo. Ome makes great springs but they were a bit too firm for my taste, but I know am and will be adding weight, It might come to a point where I will switch the rear out once the weight gets to a certain point and tjm can't handle it. But it suppose to so we shall see.

Again for an empty rig with occasional added eight tjm progress is hands down the best springs for that situation still. IMHO
 
I've had the TJM kit installed for about 15k miles (progressive springs, non-adjustable shocks). No complaints. I've installed lift kits on everything from '80s mini trucks to 4Runners and Tacomas and I have to say that I am the most pleased with the TJM install on my LX450. I've got sliders and an ARB front bumper and had to add 20 mm spacers to the front to level it, but other than that I haven't had any sagging issues, etc. Paint has rubbed off the shocks due to the dust boot for sure.

No hard core wheeling, but light trails, etc. it has been awesome. Based on my experience (and no experience with the OME stuff) I would buy the TJMs again.

My two yen. :)
 
Same here, been about 2 years and mine are great. I don't have any weight added which would help. It performed amazing loaded down on our trip last summer. Not sure about sagging, nothing noticeable so would have to measure.
 
Very interesting to hear the different reviews and experiences with these springs. I am looking at getting these springs for my truck but I am concerned that the Bilstein 4600s I have will not be able to coup with the lift. Does anyone have any input or experience for me? I think I've read that they are capable of dealing with a 2inch lift but I would hate to be wrong. Thank you!

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I'm much less sophisticated on these things than most of you guys but after two years with the TJM non-adjustable 50mm kit things have held up well. No bumpers or sliders here but the only sag I've noticed was after putting 150-175lbs of drawers and gear in the back the rear came down about 0.5" at most, making the truck appear perfectly level. The lift made steering a bit more vague and 'wandery' on the hwy, but no more than going up to 33's later on did.

The heavily driven on and rutted out nature of the beaches I drive on most and the speeds at which I do it probably make me bounce around offroad as much as anyone here and rebound control is never really an issue. It's how hard these ruts/holes hit, and how high I fly that's the problem! :eek: Otherwise moderate bumpiness is soaked up pretty well.
The worst is probably the millions of little potholes around here that want to jar your fillings out. But that has more to do with my hard E rated tires than springs.

All told I like this kit but have nothing to really compare it to - so there. :p
 
AFAIK bilsteins are for stock height or no lift, you would lose couple of inches of droop.

So far everyone said nothing but great things about fox so I would go that route and enjoy life with no regrets. :)

Thanks for your input, that helps a lot.
 
I have the TJM kit with the non adjustable shocks too and I've been super happy with it. It's been about 10k miles of mostly street driving with some dunes, rough roads and a bit of more serious wheeling thrown in. No rock crawling. I've been really happy with it.
 
Should have gone OME, IMO. They are sturdy and the sport shocks ride nice on the road. The brand is tried and true, and I can load up 1,000 lbs of frozen bread dough (for example) and not even sag the rear. I have a medium rear/heavy front combo with a 1" spacer all around... I don't mind at all that my cruiser rides like a truck, if I wanted a cushy Cadillac ride I would be, well, not driving a Cadillac, but you get the picture...
 
I was considering this one.. but I think it'd kill parking garage access. I was in one last weekend that was pretty tight with stock tires/springs. I need a 100 series for hauling people to the city.
 
I was considering this one.. but I think it'd kill parking garage access. I was in one last weekend that was pretty tight with stock tires/springs. I need a 100 series for hauling people to the city.

I have decided to avoid parking garages for long time now. :)
 
I'm running TJM springs and front shocks and Rancho RS9000s adjustable shocks in the back..I have no problems...
 

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