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Glenn-BJ74 said:
255 is a great tire size, which I would love to have, but I am not prepared to turn around everytime there is mud on the trail

Ah I am sure 255s would get you through same well everything you have put your truck through.
But there is this urge I have to get 35s
 
Ah I am sure 255s would get you through same well everything you have put your truck through.
But there is this urge I have to get 35s

No. From that comment I speculate you do not wheel much if at all (in adverse conditions).

Look at Mike McT's pick-up above withh 285s stuck as hell (at least a 2 hour extraction), while Aaron pulling a trailer, Gary T and myself drove through that bog with 315s. No question the skinneys are better on the gravel -- but that is not adverse conditions.

Bill W. has 10.5s (approximatel 266 mm) and his tire dropped between two logs on a cable strug log bridge - the wider tired rigs drove over the logs without moving them. Lower ground pressure.

If you have 255's make sure sure you have a great winch and love using it or stick to the gravel.
 
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Glenn-BJ74 said:
No. From that comment I speculate you do not wheel much if at all (in adverse conditions).

Look at Mike McT's pick-up above withh 285s stuck as hell (at least a 2 hour extraction), while Aaron pulling a trailer, Gary T and myself drove through that bog with 315s. No question the skinneys are better on the gravel -- but that is not adverse conditions.

Bill W. has 10.5s (approximatel 266 mm) and his tire dropped between two logs on a cable strug log bridge - the wider tired rigs drove over the logs without moving them. Lower ground pressure.

I don't wheel like you guys really.
Interesting info
 
The never ending debate over tire size and width.
I would suggest looking at industrial equipment, those guys usually have it figured out pretty well because they can't afford down time caused by poor equipment design.
Equipment that sees a lot of wet, muddy, soft, and sandy terrain has wide, large tires that can handle a lot of weight.
Equipment that sees more asphalt, gravel, and even small rock, has skinnier and usually not as tall of a tire.
If you have a lot of weight, you either need to go skinny and tall enough to touch the bottom of what you're going through (in some cases that doesn't exist) or you need to try to float on top of it as best as you can.
All depends on your primary and secondary uses of the vehicle.
 
I don't wheel like you guys really.
Interesting info

Then why the yard full of Cruisers? - They are overkill (i.e., expensive per km) for gravel travel.
 
I am sure wide tires are the norm in the US & Canada. That is what the market wants. Just like gas engines tend to be the norm here. But you know, with my travels in the Americas and Asia, skinnies seem to be the norm. The only time I saw real wide tires on a Cruiser was this one in Equador. (gotta love his spare and his departure angle capabilities)

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Now compare it to this one and tell me which one gets to see MUD or any offroad wheeling?

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On the 40, it looks like the exhaust will hit before anything. Yeah odd choice of spare even if it doesn't see dirt.
 
Well I do offroad it, I just haven't taken it on trips like you guys go on every few months.
Its not a pavement princess as some think.

Well its time to break that bad habit!
Come join us for 10 days in the Chilcotin the 2nd-3rd week in July. We can pull you out if you have your 255s on .:hillbilly:
 
Well its time to break that bad habit!
Come join us for 10 days in the Chilcotin the 2nd-3rd week in July. We can pull you out if you have your 255s on .:hillbilly:

Glenn I would absolutely love to but I am unable to due to my work season right now. If your going to the vancouver island meeting next Wednesday and I can get my stuff down for school I might be popping by.

I have 285s on right now....:flipoff2:I am not too fond of the mall terrains but they were free......
 
I am sure wide tires are the norm in the US & Canada. That is what the market wants. Just like gas engines tend to be the norm here. But you know, with my travels in the Americas and Asia, skinnies seem to be the norm. The only time I saw real wide tires on a Cruiser was this one in Equador. (gotta love his spare and his departure angle capabilities)

I think I need Tapage to chime in now

https://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/397209-marilu-upgrades-ver-2010-a.html

https://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/183931-tencha-hj-60-a.html
 

Yep 37" MTRs and very unusual to see on 4x4s in the Global South. How many times have you seen tires like this on a 4x4 in Mexico?
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I am sure Tapage will say that most 4x4s that are usual work horses in the countryside will have smaller and skinner (but locally available) tires. People who have money to make 4 Wheeling a luxury sport have the $ for the big tires and other cool looking stuff. Tapage also said once that one of the best things for their types of mud wheeling was a complete set of chains. That tells me that most of the time even the sporting 4x4 guys down there are digging for traction rather than trying to float across the mud. If you really want to float across deep mud, then an Arctic Trucks type balloon tire set-up would be best. But they are not economical or practical for most working trucks in the South. With these 44s and air down to 7 psi, then you are floating. :cool:

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That troopy would look nice minus the flares and balloons

That's where the differences come to the forefront, I think that troopy looks fantastic just the way it sits. Other than narrow trails, that beast would be unstoppable. 10' of snow... no problem, 3' of mud... no problem, 3-4' water crossing... no problem, rocks the size of VW Beetle... bring 'em on.
 
That's where the differences come to the forefront, I think that troopy looks fantastic just the way it sits. Other than narrow trails, that beast would be unstoppable. 10' of snow... no problem, 3' of mud... no problem, 3-4' water crossing... no problem, rocks the size of VW Beetle... bring 'em on.

I agree
 
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