Thinking of getting another 200 series, who has multiple?

[Sajan]

Need to add another car to the household..
I like '18 LX570 but it's got some mods on it...wanted to pick up one that's stock.
Dumb idea to pick up a 13-15?
Haven't had two of the same car other than when I picked up a 2000 and 2004 camry.

(don't shoot me) but I also thought about going back to an EV like a F150 lightning.

 

[dms]

I really liked my 13 LC which I traded for my 18 LC. I had a 2018 LX570 and my 18 LC at the same time and primarily drove the LX. I sold my LX when I got my LX600. I doubt if I will ever get rid of my LC. As for EV's, I had a cybertruck for a while. It was a lot of fun to drive, but I would rather worry about my LX600 leaving engine parts along the highway than taking the time to charge when on the road.

 

[Sajan]

I really liked my 13 LC which I traded for my 18 LC. I had a 2018 LX570 and my 18 LC at the same time and primarily drove the LX. I sold my LX when I got my LX600. I doubt if I will ever get rid of my LC. As for EV's, I had a cybertruck for a while. It was a lot of fun to drive, but I would rather worry about my LX600 leaving engine parts along the highway than taking the time to charge when on the road.

So you have a '18 + LX600 now?

I want to pick up a LX700OT but I need to more sure about this engine fiasco. So in a way this 13-15 is a stop gap solution.

 

[dms]

Yes. My 18 LC is a garage queen with about 36k miles. I have a 24 LX600 that currently has about 63k on it. I'll probably rack up an other 600 or so tomorrow when I drive to the farm in North Texas. I'm on the recall list so I guess my current engine has an unlimited mile warranty. I have changed the oil every 5k, initially with 0w20 but switched to 5w30 at about 40k. At first, the dealership gave me grief about using 5w30, but now they don't question it at all (and probably support it). So far, no engine problems. I had my oil analyzed by Blackstone around 40k and am going to send off another sample at 65k. It will be interesting to see if anything has changed.

 

[GreatBenzini]

Chances the LC200/LX570 bubble pops? Maybe wait it out a little longer?

 

[Specialeyes]

Chances the LC200/LX570 bubble pops? Maybe wait it out a little longer?

We can only hope.

 

[Sajan]

We can only hope.

I think the next update to the 600/700 will determine the fate of the 570 values. until then i dont see anything changing.

 

[Specialeyes]

I'd lean more towards economic factors than a model refresh. Then again many said the same 2-3 years ago yet 200's have only gone up.

 

[dms]

I was looking at 19-21 Tundra TRD Pro's and thinking about getting rid of my gen 1 Taco, examples with 60k miles are going for more than they were new. The same looks to be true with the late model 3rd gen tacos and 4th gen 4runners. The old, non hybrid, non turbo models are really holding their value.

 

[CT3]

We have a (way over-)built 2015 and a nearly stock 2020 HE… both were purchased new. I love them both. I am pretty sure I would buy both again.

Having two is honestly pretty great. The old one is the dedicated camp, road warrior, offroad rig. Admittedly though it’s been getting too little use lately. The newer one is low mileage, maybe 20-25k.

My instinct is that the “we have two of the same car” thing often comes down to not wanting to move on from a platform once you love something but the reality is the Landcruiser will last a very long time. If I had left the original one alone it could just have been a 100-150K mile quasi daily driver.

My main regret, if you can even call it that, is going overboard on the first LC. Full metal front/rear bumpers with swing out, aux tank, snorkel, full rack, drawers, fridge, etc add real complexity day to day and aren’t that helpful for getting groceries or picking up passengers or making a school run…. Less is more with modifications for 95%+ of owners. The 2020 has OEM sized A/T tires, ARB onboard air under hood, sliders, and a rear goosegear cargo plate for securing gear. IMO it’s basically how the HE should have come from the factory. I will never, ever do the bumpers, full drawers, rack, etc on the HE…. YMMV

Now to address your other point, I bought a CPO Audi RS Etron GT at the end of last year. Depreciation after ~10K miles/2 years was over $100K — happy to be the second owner rather than the first. And I can tell you that people are paying more than double what I paid for this EV on low mileage 200s on BaT. You can do that, but if you just need a car, can charge at home, have another car for roadtrips, etc then an used EV (with a warranty) can make a lot of sense.

The Audi drives unbelievably well. It’s infinitely better on a piece of paved road than a 200 Series, assuming you aren’t trying to drive across the country. I love the LC but it’s a dinosaur. The charmingly old steering and NA V8 give it a ton of character, but it’s good to keep track of what else is out there.

You know this already I’m sure but there’s something gratifying about having a competent, AWD, truly all-weather EV daily driver that can also do 0-60 in 3 seconds, and in this case for a fraction of what a late model 200 would cost. In my specific case, we can charge at home for next to no money, the service is much cheaper than any comparably performing ICE German car, and it’s just a pleasure to own.

Ultimately I would just think through it before spending big money on a 200 series (again) — but if you do, can’t go wrong with a LC/LX. They don’t build ‘em like they used, that’s for sure!

 

[RTaylor]

I’ve had my ‘14 since new. Picked up the ‘20 for my wife in ‘22 thinking I would upgrade to that by now, but she’s obsessed too. My 11 year old is adamant about driving mine when it’s his time. I guess I should be shopping for a 3rd!

 

[Sajan]

We have a (way over-)built 2015 and a nearly stock 2020 HE… both were purchased new. I love them both. I am pretty sure I would buy both again.

Having two is honestly pretty great. The old one is the dedicated camp, road warrior, offroad rig. Admittedly though it’s been getting too little use lately. The newer one is low mileage, maybe 20-25k.

My instinct is that the “we have two of the same car” thing often comes down to not wanting to move on from a platform once you love something but the reality is the Landcruiser will last a very long time. If I had left the original one alone it could just have been a 100-150K mile quasi daily driver.

My main regret, if you can even call it that, is going overboard on the first LC. Full metal front/rear bumpers with swing out, aux tank, snorkel, full rack, drawers, fridge, etc add real complexity day to day and aren’t that helpful for getting groceries or picking up passengers or making a school run…. Less is more with modifications for 95%+ of owners. The 2020 has OEM sized A/T tires, ARB onboard air under hood, sliders, and a rear goosegear cargo plate for securing gear. IMO it’s basically how the HE should have come from the factory. I will never, ever do the bumpers, full drawers, rack, etc on the HE…. YMMV

Now to address your other point, I bought a CPO Audi RS Etron GT at the end of last year. Depreciation after ~10K miles/2 years was over $100K — happy to be the second owner rather than the first. And I can tell you that people are paying more than double what I paid for this EV on low mileage 200s on BaT. You can do that, but if you just need a car, can charge at home, have another car for roadtrips, etc then an used EV (with a warranty) can make a lot of sense.

The Audi drives unbelievably well. It’s infinitely better on a piece of paved road than a 200 Series, assuming you aren’t trying to drive across the country. I love the LC but it’s a dinosaur. The charmingly old steering and NA V8 give it a ton of character, but it’s good to keep track of what else is out there.

You know this already I’m sure but there’s something gratifying about having a competent, AWD, truly all-weather EV daily driver that can also do 0-60 in 3 seconds, and in this case for a fraction of what a late model 200 would cost. In my specific case, we can charge at home for next to no money, the service is much cheaper than any comparably performing ICE German car, and it’s just a pleasure to own.

Ultimately I would just think through it before spending big money on a 200 series (again) — but if you do, can’t go wrong with a LC/LX. They don’t build ‘em like they used, that’s for sure!

You conveyed my thought process well. In hindsight I should have started with a stock LX and worked up from there than a modded one. Luckily I don't have to deal with a swingout and it looks pretty stock at first glance.

What's funny is I had a '24 Taycan GTS that I LOVED. I got rid of it because it's not spacious at all. The rear trunk could barely fit a case of water from costco. I tried to find a Cross Turismo but they are slim pickings.
You are right that an AWD electric would be so much more practical and more fun than another big body SUV. A late model LX with ~75K miles is 62-65K.

 

[04UZJ100]

I have 3 200s, a 100, and a V8 4R.

14 LX is probably my favorite 200. Interior quality is the best - it went downhill in the mid-cycle refresh and the 6 speed is so much better than the 8.

The V8 4R is my favorite of all of them. IMO best engine/transmission/power delivery.

 

[CT3]

You conveyed my thought process well. In hindsight I should have started with a stock LX and worked up from there than a modded one. Luckily I don't have to deal with a swingout and it looks pretty stock at first glance.

What's funny is I had a '24 Taycan GTS that I LOVED. I got rid of it because it's not spacious at all. The rear trunk could barely fit a case of water from costco. I tried to find a Cross Turismo but they are slim pickings.
You are right that an AWD electric would be so much more practical and more than another big body SUV. A late model LX with ~75K miles is 62-65K.

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I swear this is still LC related, bear with me…

I think the Taycan/ETron GT were (hopefully) opening salvos meant to generate some attention and that anything that comes after (Macan Electric, Cayenne Electric, RS Audi EV) can maintain their feel while improving on the packaging and tech.

The ETron GT is nearly identical so it suffers from the same lack of storage, but what other German built car can we find with <15k miles, 600+ hp, 0-100mph in 7 seconds, with really minimal annual running costs that can be purchased with multiple years of remaining bumper to bumper warranty for $55-65K. I know it sounds like a lot of money, but go price out a comparable RS7, Panamera GTS, or the like and the same price will get you a car with no warranty and 4-5 times the miles.

All of this is to say that there are so many options out there in the big wide world of cars. It’s easy in our echo chamber here on Mud to think exclusively in terms of which 200 is best. In reality, the majority of the time you just don’t need a car as capable/stout as a LC/LX to commute or get groceries or head out for an evening or take a Sunday drive or whatever the use case is.

So to reiterate. One 200 is great, and two or more 200’s is extra great (assuming you have the space, funds, etc…) but finding the best vehicle for your specific needs, and being honest about what those look like day to day m, is probably the best.

Hell, most of us should be driving a Toyota Sienna Hybrid, an Accord, a Miata, or even a bicycle if we were honest with ourselves. The challenge is to find that unique middle point between being reasonable and having fun. That almost always takes me back to a LC/LX, GX, 911, Audi S/RS car, or something that can satisfy multi criteria at once.

 

[afgman786]

Pretty sure there's a nice number of people here with 2 200s. 08 LC built up and a 11 LX for the wifey. I've contemplated adding a 3rd 200 to the stable.

 

[Hornd]

I have 3 200s, a 100, and a V8 4R.

14 LX is probably my favorite 200. Interior quality is the best - it went downhill in the mid-cycle refresh and the 6 speed is so much better than the 8.

The V8 4R is my favorite of all of them. IMO best engine/transmission/power delivery.

That Last Statement Surprised Me - You like the 4.7 over the 5.7?

The 5.7 is a beast with Same Mileage as the 4.7

I have an 80 Series and a GX470

The 4.7 is Worlds Better than the 1FZ-FE, but I'm talking Highway.

Off-road I'll take the Inline all day.

 

[Heckraiser]

I haven't had two 200's, but at one time I had a 200 and an 80 and briefly a 200 and two 80's. For me, one of them always feels neglected. My wife barely drives and when she does, she prefers her RX350.

I would recommend an EV for an extra vehicle. I've been driving EV of one form or another for 11 years and I can't even imagine the money it's saved me over the years. And as a past camry owner, you're already familiar with boring/comfortable/competent grocery getters.

Taycan and Etron GT are awesome to look at and I'm sure great to drive, but I would not touch with a 10 foot pole, check the consumer reports or even just youtube. :ninja edit: With two owners in this thread, seems neither of you had problems during your ownership? How many miles did you do? :/ninja edit: I'd recommend a tesla, kia/hyundai or BMW. Or the F150 if you have actual need of a pickup just to use locally.

 

[CT3]

You’re absolutely right. For those who want to give the EV option a go the ones you’re suggesting are much better choices. I however am a sucker for pain and with two LCs at home you can take some risks on unreliable POS cars

That being said I’m coming up on a completely uneventful year of ownership with zero issues, no warning lights, no unexpected dealer visits etc. I think the 2023+ Taycan/ETron were materially better than the earlier years, although that’s not saying much.

 

[Sajan]

You’re absolutely right. For those who want to give the EV option a go the ones you’re suggesting are much better choices. I however am a sucker for pain and with two LCs at home you can take some risks on unreliable POS cars

That being said I’m coming up on a completely uneventful year of ownership with zero issues, no warning lights, no unexpected dealer visits etc. I think the 2023+ Taycan/ETron were materially better than the earlier years, although that’s not saying much.

Part 2 of annoyance with the Taycan was the 220 mile range..
The facelift has a bit more range...so I need to find me one of those.

The F150 EV has 300+.
Previous EVs I had: Audi e-tron, BMW iX, Nissan Ariya

I actually liked the Ariya. Surprisingly spacious but drove like a compact car.

 

[MRego]

Hey, you are all saying you want the same thing.

1 - Land Cruiser tank build quality
2 - EV Tech but no glitches and no EV range-anxiety
3 - a Swiss army knife that can mountain goat and right before or after do 0-60 in a time that 10 years ago would be equivalent to a super car.

Answer: LX700H OT 2 Row end of story.

As a fellow Cruiser-head and having owned two 200s, one 80 and God-know-how-many 4 Runners, hear me out. Forget about this whole engine stuff which IMO is being completely blown out of proportion. Haven't heard one thing about the 700H engine-related. Don't come tell me it is the same Tundra engine that is plagued. Show me one case of a 700H with a blown engine. Even if you are extremely unlucky, think about it. You have a six-year warranty for your powertrain. How long would you plan to keep that EV anyway?

Is it expensive - yes. Is it worth to have an evolution of a 200 series - totally. @Sajan is my witness, this thing did some of the most famous CO Passes in stock form. Crazy amounts of torque, clearance and control. Did I mention it is also triple lockable? Meanwhile, practically drove itself from TX-CO-TX.

Closing to 15kmiles and, so far, not one single issue with this car. Just pure joy. I understand venerating the 200 (I do too), but paying $150k for a 5-year old car out of warranty at BAT, is just bonkers IMO. Anyway, to each their own.

@Sajan - all this to say. Take the plunge man. Get a 700HOT 2-row in Nori - it will go so well with your blue 570.