Builds The start of a never ending build, new 80 owner
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Finnyfam60
Driving miss daisy
Looking good bro!
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- #123
Thank you! Hopefully get the 1 ton Y link steering along with sliders all taken care of next week!
Finnyfam60
Driving miss daisy
You doing high steer or y link off the stock arms?
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- #125
Moving the tie rod infront of axle for hydro assist and adding a RHD steering arm!
Why? There's arguably no added strength in moving the tie rod to the front, plus you're changing the steering geometry. The steering setup on the 80 is great, and adding the hydro to the rear keeps everything tucked up and safe.
If you're bent on moving your steering up front with one ton y links, then wait until you can spring for some hellfire knuckles to make the whole thing worthwhile.
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- #127
Main reason was to give me more room for a 3link setup
Tie rod in the back interfering with your control arms is just silly. Stock setup is fine if all you'll ever do is run short OME coils, but when you start getting into the world of bigger lifts and custom linked suspensions, it needs to move.
What's silly is going cheap on steering when trying to do custom link stuff with with a bigger lift. Save that steering money and put it towards some Hellfire knuckles which will save a lot of headache and trial and error in the long run.
For those that are running large tires and wheel their rigs, putting the tie rod in front down low makes no sense. You're just waiting to plow a rock.
Sure Hellfires are the ultimate solution, no argument there. But saying this setup is cheap or weak makes it seem like you have idea what you're talking about. You're using OEM steering arms and DOM tubing/TREs way stronger than the stock toothpicks. Tierod interference with the lower control arms is an issue most face when trying to correct caster. This isn't only about a custom 3 link.
Also, it's no money lost if you decide to upgrade to Hellfires. Simply take the ylink and use it on the Hellfire knuckles. Sell the RHD arm and use the stock arm as the lower cap. Done.
$250 for a y-link one ton set-up is certainly a cheap solution in comparison to the $800+ it's going to take to switch over to the Hellfire knuckles, which is almost a third of the cost of just going to the ultimate solution being those knuckles.
I never said it was a weak solution, but I'll certainly point out (like plenty of others already have) that by putting one ton tie rods in place of the 80 series ones, you're transmitting your load onto other components in the factory system such as the studs and steering shaft. I have a wheeling buddy that went from the 80 series ends that he broke one or two of yearly (due to his not changing all rod ends out as regular maintenance and only changing one when it broke), to the y-link set up and has broken two sector shafts and sheared his knuckle studs on three occasions until he did the D44 stud upgrade. I've also witnessed another 80 that's been wheeled harder than just about anything seen on mud' break a sector shaft before a rod end went.
Personally, I'd rather a $25 rod end which takes 15 minutes to replace or a $40 steering rod be the issue I have to deal with rather than breaking a sector shaft or shearing off knuckle studs.
I know you've gotten a lot of attention in your build, and rightly so, but you've also gotten in the habit of dismissing a lot of people who've been there and done just about everything you're doing. There's great reasoning behind certain parts failing before others, mainly being that some repair issues are better done in a garage or shop than on the trail. @Apounder , save your money and put it towards the Hellfire knuckles, and I have a friend that can cut and thread some steering links for you for cheap when you're ready.
Care to elaborate? I listen when people make sense regardless of whether or not they've done it before. A few posts ago you said there was no strength to be gained. Now you're saying you'll gain so much strength that you're going to break other parts. If getting stronger parts only creates problem in other areas, why upgrade anything at all? We should all keep our trucks stock. Why recommend he gets HF knuckles if he's still not addressing the sector shaft? I have a set of Hellfires on the way so I guess I better get used to changing out those sector shafts every trip!
Again, saying I said something, when I didn't. I said, I quote, " that by putting one ton tie rods in place of the 80 series ones, you're transmitting your load onto other components in the factory system." If something by nature of its design causes stress and breakage in other parts of the system, it is not in fact "stronger", but rather a fulcrum for multiplying weakness.
The "why upgrade anything at all" argument is weak sauce. When upgrading, you should try to do things with thought to the system, rather than one part at a time so that you're not exposing one weak link after another, but instead are making the truck for a purpose.
You really seem incapable of having a discussion without resorting to pathetic sarcastic snippets, "I better get used to changing out those sector shafts every trip!" which is a shame because you seem to really enjoy building on your rig.
If for a 3 link then I totally get it since you have to clear everything away to mount the lowers.
Whose link kit are you going to use, or are you building your own?
Where'd you get the extension?
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- #138
Was just a shifter extension off of a random site with correct thread, can't remember site but I'll look into my receipts!
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- #139
UPDATE: 4in OME competition coils in front along with new 14inch travel bilstein 5165s with external reservoir in front and 5125s in rear.
Extended length: 35.8in
Compressed length: 22in
Eye-eye
Made up some custom mounts using the stock rear top hats, and cutting the front tops.
And some glory shots
Extended length: 35.8in
Compressed length: 22in
Eye-eye
Made up some custom mounts using the stock rear top hats, and cutting the front tops.
And some glory shots
Grimmjow
YūGEN
What size wheel spacers are you running?
