Starter Rebuild Question - Real Time

[hntashdjian]

Hey Guys,

I was reading a bunch of posts after I rebuild my starter today and I noticed that all the pictures have a red paper like thing under the contacts. My starter did not have this when I took it apart.

Is it some kind of insulation that mine is missing that is important?

Here is a picture of a starter disassembled that has the red insulator under the contacts:

https://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/391689-starter-issues-after-rebuild.html

What do you guys think?


Harry

 

[Kernal]

Are you refering to the white insulator paper that sits under the contacts? If you purchased the Toyota mini-rebuild kit that paper comes with it. Or, are you refering to the red pressed board thingy? That definitely should be there, if not you probably do not have a Toyota/Denso starter.

 

[hntashdjian]

Like you said, the white insulation paper came with the kit that I got from Dan.

I just took the back cover off and cleaned the surface and off coarse the red pressed board thing was right there, just a little dusty. Im over analyzing things as usual.

Thanks.

 

[george_tlc]

That red insulator OR THE EQUIVALENT better be there or you are going to have a short between the contacts (that carry +12V) and the body/housing of the starter that is at GROUND potential...

Edit: ok, you have it figured out

cheers,
george.

 

[hntashdjian]

That red insulator OR THE EQUIVALENT better be there or you are going to have a short between the contacts (that carry +12V) and the body/housing of the starter that is at GROUND potential...

Edit: ok, you have it figured out

cheers,
george.

I was thinking the exact same thing, that it will short and that won't be fun. Obviously it was working before I took it apart.

It was easier to type rather then go disassemble it and verify.

 

[DJCloz]

Is this what it sounds like when it shorts out? I just did my starter rebuild on my 93 and after installing it and all, I see the paper insulator. Or what do you think is the problem?

 

[george_tlc]

Not a short, just that the bendix isn't working - the thing that pushes the drive gear out to mesh with the teeth on the flywheel.

You should open up the starter fully and clean and regrease the bendix assembly and see if that takes care of things. You can also power the starter (once removed) with jumper cables and see if the drive gear moves out with vigor when you power the starter up (once you have it out and on the floor).

cheers,
george.

 

[DJCloz]

Gotcha. Thanks George_tlc