Surprisingly, the brakes on my 60 do very well. I heard the brakes on the 80's would fade pretty quick. Although I enjoy the "Boulevard" ride of the AHC, I do prefer the conventional suspension of my 4Runner and FJ60 off road because I just don't trust the durability of the AHC on my Lexus yet. Seems like one more thing to worry about so I tend to pamper it a bit when I'm on the trail. Wheeling a Lexus is kind of hard to wrap your head around. Like off road in a Coupe De Ville.And brakes were about the same.