Speaker replacement questions

[sh3pherdd]

Looking to replace the whole system. I have a 1996 LX450 that was made in 01/96 if that matters (ive heard there was a production split but i don't know what it changed). The center console mini-sub has been removed, already. I spliced the speaker wire for it to use it for a remote wire on the loose sub box I have. i would like direct screw in speakers that don't require me to mess with the door panel. Now for the questions...

1. Im looking at the Pioneer D series speakers for the doors and would like the same for the dash. will they fit with the factory speaker grills?

2. where are the rest of the speakers? ive seen threads where people say its a 9 speaker system but i can only find 7... two in the dash, the mini-sub, and one speaker per door.

3. the only thing i don't want to commit to replacing is the head unit. is there a point in getting good speakers with the factory head unit and no added amplifier or should i just be replacing with something cheap?

4. what is the speaker size for the dash speakers? front door speakers? rear door speakers?

thanks if these questions get answered.

 

[Sno bored]

There are two small speakers in the rear corners of the truck up in the headliner. Most people just unplug these when they replace speakers. Search old threads on sizes of the speakers.

 

[sh3pherdd]

There are two small speakers in the rear corners of the truck up in the headliner. Most people just unplug these when they replace speakers. Search old threads on sizes of the speakers.

I did. the link below is the most helpful thread ive found. what i know:

dash: 4" round speakers??
Fronts 6.5"
Rear doors: 4" round speakers??

not enough information for me to order speakers. i was hoping whoever knew that off the top of their head would also be able to tell me the maximum depth of a speaker i could use. most of these pioneers i am looking at are 3.5" deep

https://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-...-speaker-replacement-behind-stock-grille.html

 

[azrider]

There are two small speakers in the rear corners of the truck up in the headliner. Most people just unplug these when they replace speakers. Search old threads on sizes of the speakers.

Not in a Lexus.

 

[sh3pherdd]

will the 4" speakers linked below fit in both the dash and the rear doors? amazon now asks you to enter your vehicle information to tell you if it fits. it lists 6.75" and 6.5" speakers but doesn't show me anything else from pioneer..


http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/Speakers/D-Series/TS-D1602R

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/Speakers/D-Series/TS-D1002R

 

[NLXTACY]

Not in a Lexus.

X2 although the holes are in the roof if you wanted to add them. You just need to cut the headliner. I've seen zero use of doing that.

 

[M32H32is]

I used 5 1/4 in the rear doors, but had to buy spacers & mod the door panels.

 

[sh3pherdd]

I used 5 1/4 in the rear doors, but had to buy spacers & mod the door panels.

what size would i order if i didn't want to do all that?

 

[JCruse]

I'm thinking of dropping these Polk's in the F doors eventually. One other member did and they fit.


http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Slim-Mount-6-5-Inch-Speakers/dp/B000P0NJPS/?tag=ihco-20







Just FYI: I saw a couple dash speakers for sale on Ebay recently and on the back it said they were only 2 Watt speakers. So anyone that's gonna try to use them with an aftermarket HU probably shouldn't. The roof speakers are probably the same.














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[JCruse]

Dupe...






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[M32H32is]

what size would i order if i didn't want to do all that?

Idk. Slim fit I assume, I believe there's a thread with a part number buried somewhere on mud. It only took a couple hours though - I give it 1 banana.

 

[raynyc]

the mounting depth for the front is 1.596 inches according to crutchfield and thats using the stock grill

 

[Timpanogos Slim]

I'm thinking of dropping these Polk's in the F doors eventually. One other member did and they fit.


http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Slim-Mount-6-5-Inch-Speakers/dp/B000P0NJPS/?tag=ihco-20

Just FYI: I saw a couple dash speakers for sale on Ebay recently and on the back it said they were only 2 Watt speakers. So anyone that's gonna try to use them with an aftermarket HU probably shouldn't. The roof speakers are probably the same.
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I forget precisely but the dash speakers and the rear headliner speakers in the TLC are probably the same. My dash speakers were long gone but i still have the headliner speakers. They are low watt - 2 sounds about right but it may have been as much as 4 - but very high impedance, like 64-ohm.

They are wired in parallel with the door speakers.

Your aftermarket HU won't even know they are there. Unfortunately neither will you unless you stick your head right next to them.

If you want aftermarket speakers in both door and dash positions you are going to need to buy an amplifier for one or the other, because running two sets of 4 ohm speakers in parallel is bad juju for any head unit.

 

[raynyc]

will you post up if the fronts fit ok or not? if they do i will buy for my LX also !

thanks

will the 4" speakers linked below fit in both the dash and the rear doors? amazon now asks you to enter your vehicle information to tell you if it fits. it lists 6.75" and 6.5" speakers but doesn't show me anything else from pioneer..


http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/Speakers/D-Series/TS-D1602R

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/Speakers/D-Series/TS-D1002R

 

[Timpanogos Slim]

Oh, the LX450 also has that "sub woofer" in the center console that is completely worthless. There is supposedly a driver replacement you can do that improves it somewhat, but i misremember the details.

My TLC came with two pair of pioneer 4" coaxials - rear door and dash positions - that anyone active on 'mud can totally have for cost of shipping. Because they are terrible IMHO.

 

[JCruse]

I just looked up those Poineers and the mounting depth is listed at over 2". That's a no fit if this is right.

Scroll down to the Pioneer supplied info:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-K4M6wgQEWDY/UNkig7sRpTI/AAAAAAAAAfU/Aa_zFQOTi9k/s1600/momentswithcharlieb.jpg




Why in the world would the dash speakers 64OHMS?? That's nuts!













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[ECBMCC]

Oh, the LX450 also has that "sub woofer" in the center console that is completely worthless. There is supposedly a driver replacement you can do that improves it somewhat, but i misremember the details.

My TLC came with two pair of pioneer 4" coaxials - rear door and dash positions - that anyone active on 'mud can totally have for cost of shipping. Because they are terrible IMHO.

My LX still has that center console sub woofer, but not connected. I'm thinking of removing it and using that space for something else. Anyone done that? Thanks.

 

[M32H32is]

My rear sub doesn't work and I may remove to make room for on board air or a power inverter. Or another sub... Who knows.

Here's a pic of the speakers pre-grill install. I totally just gorilla glued grills on lol

 

[DSRTRDR]

the G series from Pioneer have some shallow mount speakers - I installed the 6.5 inch in the front doors and know that the 5.25 inch shallow fit the rear doors, just haven't installed them yet

IIRC parts number for the front was G1644R, for the rear doors G1344R

Amazon turned out to be a better deal for me than Beast Buy - just sayin'

this was for our '93 80 - I have no idea what fits in a Lexus 450

 

[raynyc]

i am ordering both pairs today !
i am replacing my head unit while i am at it too . i need to find an amp that i can hide somewhere either behind the dash or under a seat also .

the G series from Pioneer have some shallow mount speakers - I installed the 6.5 inch in the front doors and know that the 5.25 inch shallow fit the rear doors, just haven't installed them yet

IIRC parts number for the front was G1644R, for the rear doors G1344R

Amazon turned out to be a better deal for me than Beast Buy - just sayin'

this was for our '93 80 - I have no idea what fits in a Lexus 450