Builds Rods 65 FJ 40 thread

[Icantdive55]

Thanks peter, I'll have to give some thought as to how I will get the flat top to the rib. I think I have it figured out. The video DEFINITELY looks easier than what I spent the day doing.

Rod

 

[destin]

more photos man

great video btw Peter

 

[Icantdive55]

windshield

Well another 4 day weekend almost over and I got nothing accomplished, thats gotta change. Anyway I was looking over the threads that might in some way school me in the proper resto of my rig and I came across this photo (shamelessly stolen from that thread)


This is obvioulsy the factory method of securing the soft top. My Windshield frame looks like it once had this piece but now it's gone.

I would like to weld the proper channel in place. I read where a lot of people have screwed theirs into palce, has any one had any issues with welding it instead? When In place does it interfere with folding the windshield down?

While I'm on the subject of the windshield can someone tell me about this little hole in the very top of the frame. There are 4 of them total. I'm almost certain that they are a PO thing but he did such a good job of spacing them and they resemble the ones in the tub where the twist locks go I thought I better ask before I fill them.


Rod

 

[Cruiser_Nerd]

That must have been fun hammering that out of 1/16" steel. Looks great though, I'll have to look for that link I remember it.

 

[Icantdive55]

Mmmm Ribs

That must have been fun hammering that out of 1/16" steel. Looks great though, I'll have to look for that link I remember it.

It was a pain. The thread is in the 40/55 forum Mmmm Ribs. When I finished it it was too wide so I used a cut off wheel and cut it down the middle. Used a grinder to remove a little then welded it back together. Still not anywhere near resto quality but I did learn a little. Oh and it looks worse now for some reason. I have a coat of primer on it and I will look at it again later but I don't think I'll use it.

Rod

 

[Dusty 66]

Well another 4 day weekend almost over and I got nothing accomplished, thats gotta change. Anyway I was looking over the threads that might in some way school me in the proper resto of my rig and I came across this photo (shamelessly stolen from that thread)
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This is obvioulsy the factory method of securing the soft top. My Windshield frame looks like it once had this piece but now it's gone.
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I would like to weld the proper channel in place. I read where a lot of people have screwed theirs into palce, has any one had any issues with welding it instead? When In place does it interfere with folding the windshield down?

While I'm on the subject of the windshield can someone tell me about this little hole in the very top of the frame. There are 4 of them total. I'm almost certain that they are a PO thing but he did such a good job of spacing them and they resemble the ones in the tub where the twist locks go I thought I better ask before I fill them.
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Rod

Rod It Nice to see you getting along on your 65,
the top of my Windshield frame has 7 - 6mm bolt holes to secure the soft top rail.

if not the 64 FSM said to use self taping screws to secure the rail http://www.root45.com/Owner's Manual.pdf

But I noticed your windshield frame looks like It has no ears so assume that the small hole on the outside edge is where to corner of the top fastens I think,
I would weld up the rest that do not have capture nut's then

 

[Living in the Past]

Picture one is a 62 soft top windshield. The second picture is the standard channels that bolt to the top of the winshield. The third picture is from the latest top I picked up. If was off a 67 that bolts like the newer ones but looks like the earlier welded on style. I seen a few 65s and 66s that have had the later style channel. I confused how this 67 channel was shaped like the earlier ones. It's the only one like it I've seen.

 

[Icantdive55]

windshield frame

Thanks for the Pics guys. Dusty shows that the windshield can be fastened down and the other shows the difference in the 2 types of channel. So now the question I have to ask is "does it make a difference which one you use if you have a Paki top". It looks like the last photo might hold the top a little lower therefore a little tighter. Does that make sense? My rig had the welded on channel at one time. I like the idea of the bolt on so that I can better seal the paint under it from rust then monitor it over the years. As you can see in the pic rust was a factor.


Thanks again for all the help. Rod

 

[Dusty 66]

I used both Paki and OEM channels with the Paki top I liked the OEM one It was a tighter fit.

 

[Living in the Past]

All the bolt on ones of mine are OEM. I like the type in the second picture because it's higher which would put less down pressure of the canvas against the rib on the top of the windshield. Less pressure against a narrow point in the canvas would help it last longer. Did that make any sense?

 

[wesintl]

Picture one is a 62 soft top windshield. The second picture is the standard channels that bolt to the top of the winshield. The third picture is from the latest top I picked up. If was off a 67 that bolts like the newer ones but looks like the earlier welded on style. I seen a few 65s and 66s that have had the later style channel. I confused how this 67 channel was shaped like the earlier ones. It's the only one like it I've seen.

Dang you're a hoarder!

 

[destin]

Dang you're a hoarder!

haha

i was thinking the same thing

nice collection!

 

[Living in the Past]

Dang you're a hoarder!

Here my latest. After a couple of days on the Mud for sale forum with on interest I bought it. $200 plus almost that much to ship. Other than the FJ25 stuff (all that is at least five years ago) the others I picked up in the nineties.

So am I a hoarder if it take fifteen years to collect it

 

[Icantdive55]

guess I need to read the 4 sale posts! Nice find. And I thought "man look at all that great stuff in just one corner of his garage"!

Rod

 

[Icantdive55]

windshield frame

Well I did a little tinkering today. I decided to wire wheel part of my w/s frame to get a better look at a dent and potential rust spots. I was impressed with how solid the frame is. I have a dent on the inside that I need to pull but I think it will be easy enough to do. I don't have a stud welder and I don't want to buy one for this small dent. Thinking I might drill a hole, insert a sheet metal screw then either heat the area with a torch and pry the dent out or get a slide hammer and pull it out without heat.

Then I need to figure out how to "flatten out the frame" a little. Hopefully when I pull the dent some of the gap in the photo below wil disappear. I can alwasy hope can't I.


I wonder how the PO got this dent anyway. He must have laid it into a tree or something real soft right at the windshield hinges. There is Zero bondo in the area but when I got the rig the front door did not fit at all. I couldn't detect anything by just looking so I got out a plunb bob and a square and found the A pillar was pushed in about 1/4". With a come-along, high-lift jack, a railroad tie and an Oak Tree it's like new again. But I still have to fix the frame.

Rod

 

[Living in the Past]

I wonder how the PO got this dent anyway.

The reason it bent there is because that's the top of the hinge and the start of the narrow spot. Weakest spot bents first. If the top of the windshield gets pushed back there is where it's going to bend first. I've seen it happen before. Not as easy to so with hard top installed.

Your doing a good job Rod keep up the good work.

 

[Icantdive55]

Thanks for the reply. It makes sense. My project is going slow but it's as fast as the ol' artharitis lets me. Wernching aint so bad I tore it completely down in a weekend. It's the sanding, gringing, pounding that takes it's toll. It will be worth it though. And I will have many many questions for the pros here on MUD as I get further along.

Rod

 

[Icantdive55]

More Windshield Frame

Hi all, Well I worked on the windshield frame again today. I think it went really well for a man of my talents! I pulled on the dent and got it to look pretty good. Still a little left to be done but I had a question before I go any further. First pic is of the dent after pulling it. I made a couple of pieces of steel to kind of fit the shape of the dented area . I drilled a hole in them and welded a nut to the back side. Then a drilled a matching hole in the dent. Inserted it into the W/S frame attached the bolt then whacked it with a slide hammer. Took a piece of brass attached it to a pry bar and held it up inside the frame and proceded to fill my hole with a wire feed welder.


So before I finish this side of the frame I need to know Is the crease in the next photo factory. It kind of looks like it is but I want to be sure.


Then how about these holes. The one in the center looks like it was factory drilled but the other 2 look PO to me. Both vents look the same.


Oh ya I almost forgot "I had fun today"... Rod

 

[Icantdive55]

Pyramid Vinyl

Well I got my Pyramid Vinyl Monday so I thought I would add a pic or 2 to the thread. My next free time will be spent making a template to cut the vinyl so it fits correctly. Also I need to research the correct layout of the pattern. I think it's straight on the outer edge but i'm not positive.

a closer look


I got a square yard and it cost me 36 or 38 $ I don't remember but that included shipping.

Still looking for some feed back on the holes by my windshield frame vents in the last photo in the previous post.

It might be a while before I get the vinyl cut but when I do I'll post it.

Rod

 

[destin]

oooh i want a set