RESOLVED. Help? Power Steering GearBox

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Solace in Solitude

Solace in Solitude

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My power steering gearbox appears to be weeping out from around the shaft... Does this mean it's time for a rebuild?

If so, can anyone direct me to the proper rebuild kit?

I'm told I have a mini-truck gearbox and a 60 pump - this is the best picture of the gearbox I have been able to take...

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Thanks!
 
Danny, your PS box appears to be the same as mine, which I received yesterday, it shows a model/serial # 3M20C3C and it's a 1984 Toyoda PS gear box. The mod # is located right above the adjusting nut, I hope this might help you a bit. If you need more pics please let me know.

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Thanks Mike!! I believe that's a serial number... I think mine is 1L37313... But I had to read it upside down, with a mirror... It faces the headers and is very tight in there.

But, if yours is off an '84 mini truck, that would make sense... I've found a few other photos that are of min it.ruck boys and they look just like ours.

Now if I can find out what rebuild kit to use.

Thanks!
 
It looks promising Mike...

...and @mdsims (thanks!) listed the part number.

I emailed West Texas Offroad for a quote and turnaround time. I'm actually driving from Vegas to Austin, TX in mid-Feb and will be there a month - so, I could easily drop mine off in San Angelo and possibly pick it up on my way back. I'll know more next week.

It's only weeping right now, but I'm sure that will grow.

I'll post what I find out.

Thanks guys!
 
Update:

I just posted pictures of my hand throttle HERE - in order to take the linkage and cable pictures, I had to remove my air cleaner. While removing it, I noticed that there was oil around the carb bowl. I already knew that the valve cover vent hose is puffing oily smoke into the air cleaner, rather than pushing clean air into the valve cover.

This is apparently related to my 105-115 compression numbers. These compression numbers do not prevent me driving 44... and it has plenty of power in my estimation.

BUT, it's now apparent that I need to remove and clean my air cleaner after every x-number of miles, to prevent oil build up and potential overflow. There is not a lot of oil in the air cleaner, but my last two trips were extremely rough, with some fairly extreme inclinations, front to back and side to side.

So, it's apparent that I slopped oil out of the air cleaner and onto the power steering gearbox. It never occurred to me that the oil could be coming from the air cleaner, rather than the PS gearbox...

I haven't ruled out a PS Gearbox problem entirely, but I will see waht it looks like after my next trip.

I've learned a lot about the PS Gearbox... and will see what West Texas Off-road wants to do a rebuild... but, I may not need on right now... we'll see!!

Thanks for your help!
 
Solace in Solitude said:
the valve cover vent hose is puffing oily smoke into the air cleaner, rather than pushing clean air into the valve cover.
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The air always comes from the PCV system into the air cleaner. The oil is condensed from the smoke. It's not oil that's coming up the tube. You'd have to be upside down for that to happen. If it makes its way back into the carb you can call it recycling. :hillbilly:
 
Fast Eddy said:
The air always comes from the PCV system into the air cleaner. The oil is condensed from the smoke. It's not oil that's coming up the tube. You'd have to be upside down for that to happen. If it makes its way back into the carb you can call it recycling. :hillbilly:
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I knew it wasn't oil coming up the tube. :rolleyes:

But, the fact that oil miraculously appeared in my air cleaner, when there wasn't any before, convinced me that I was on to something. :hmm:

Since 44 is burning oil and creating oily smoke that flows to the air cleaner, I tapped a new 3/8" port on the bottom of the air cleaner. Then I attached a length of 3/8" hose, to allow the reincarnated oil to flow back to the dip stick tube. I haven't had to add a drop of oil since. I liken it to putting the Genie back into the bottle.:bounce::bounce:

This is working so well that I have developed a method of capturing exhaust. The captured exhaust will be routed to the re-characteristicer, where through a proprietary method that I am not willing to share, the raw exhaust is re-characterized into gasoline and fed back to the main tank. The re-characteristic'd gasoline has all of the properties of 91 octane. :bounce::bounce:

To be clear, I was originally feeding it back to the main tank, but I'm going to change the routing to return it to my aux tank. Since the 2F engine is pretty inefficient, I'm able to recover 73.25% of each gallon of gasoline... so much that, when I runoff my aux tank, my main tank keeps overflowing. :bang:

It took a while to realize this, but I'm sure I can tweak (or twerk) this process and make 44 so efficient that the oil companies will soon be buying back my excess gasoline!! :hmm:

You are correct... this is the epitome of recycling!!

My hands are really starting to ache.... from squeezing this chuck of coal!! ;)

:p
 
Good one Danny!!!

Don
 
handcannon said:
Good one Danny!!!

Don
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Thanks!

I've removed my PS Gearbox and am going to drop it off for a rebuild in the morning. It was still weeping and I was planning to drain and refresh the ATF in it anyway.

Should be rebuilt and back to me tomorrow afternoon.
 
As I said, above, I have my PS Gearbox out and will take it to MB Automotive, here in Vegas in the morning (thanks to @redrock !! for telling me about them).

Questions:

1.The rag joint could use replacing while I have it out... since I have a mini-truck PS Gearbox, do I buy a mini-truck rag joint? or an FJ40 rag joint? or, are they one and the same?

2. 44 has NO PS Gearbox heat shield - all it is is a piece of metal, to cut down on the heat on the PS Pressure (feed) Line - correct? I have some heat shield out of the back of 44, I can cut a piece, if that's all it is.

Thanks!
 
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There's never a better time!! ;)

Holds true here too - with rain last night and rain forecast for Friday, I'm gonna deal with the PS Gearbox and flush my brake fluid and change the soft lines.

I hate missing a 44 trip with Gunner this week... :mad:
 
Solace in Solitude said:
There's never a better time!! ;)

Holds true here too - with rain last night and rain forecast for Friday, I'm gonna deal with the PS Gearbox and flush my brake fluid and change the soft lines.

I hate missing a 44 trip with Gunner this week... :mad:
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You are in the neighborhood of 900 miles away, and getting rain. We should be getting rain, but no rain forecast until Saturday (10% chance), Sunday 60%, Monday 80%, Monday back down to 40%, and then bouncing between 50 and 60% the rest of the week (our norm). Today the high is supposed to be 57, foggy this morning, and then sun. Thursday a low of 37, high 58, and sun. Friday 36 low, and high of 56 and sunny. NOT THE NORM for here. Did we swap weather patterns? However, I do enjoy the sunny winter days. The big drawback is it means I don't have a good excuse for not going outside and working. I have a willow tree that my parents didn't keep properly trimmed, allowing suckers to grow in all directions, that I am taking down. By carefully controlling my personal resources (back, leg, etc) and where the tree limbs go (right next to the house) I should have it down by Friday, all cut up, and the small stuff on the burn pile out back.

Of course this means no work time on the cruiser either. I don't have the funds to do anything on it so I'm just dreaming about driving it. But, I love those dreams.

Don
 
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