Rear Bumper Build

[Fourrunner]

Weights and measurments were very helpful. Looks like about $50 shipping for me, not bad.

I'm still very interested in the bumper. A few more questions before I can commit.

1. Concerning the bumper spacing with my body lift: Does the Top plate (the ones with holes for spindles) weld to the top edge of the bumper bracket I posted in the picture in this post: IH8MUD™ Forums - View Single Post - Rear Bumper Build
"Any way I could move the brackets to the inside of the frame, and put a 1.5"-2" block in to move the whole assembly up? moving the brackets inside change the scale of the angles of the bumper?"

2. What was your source for the spindles?

3. Do you have a way to hold the swing arms out if the truck isn't level?

4. Have you worked up the pricing for the swing arms? If I do this bumper, I'd like to buy 2 swing arms with the bumper.

Sorry it is taking so long to get back. Been crazy at home and work.

1. The top plate does weld to the top edge of the number bracket. I would just get another piece of steel about 1.5" wide and as long as the bumper and weld it to the back side of the top plate. This would fill in that gap. There is no way to raise the bumper up. It would change quite a bit.
2. I bought my spindles locally.
3. I don't have a way, but have begun thinking about it. Best way I can think is drill a few holes in the top plate and get a spring loaded pin to drop in the hole. The spring pin would be attached to the hub on the tire carrier.
4. I don't have pricing on the swing outs. Bearings and spindle alone are over 65 bucks. I don't really want to give you a quote until I hear back from the CNC machine shop making the hubs for the tire carrier. I am not sure how much the steel is going to run me either. Hopefully I can get this info in a day or so.

Any other questions? Hopefully this helped you.

 

[euclid]

Sorry it is taking so long to get back. Been crazy at home and work.

1. The top plate does weld to the top edge of the number bracket. I would just get another piece of steel about 1.5" wide and as long as the bumper and weld it to the back side of the top plate. This would fill in that gap. There is no way to raise the bumper up. It would change quite a bit.
2. I bought my spindles locally.
3. I don't have a way, but have begun thinking about it. Best way I can think is drill a few holes in the top plate and get a spring loaded pin to drop in the hole. The spring pin would be attached to the hub on the tire carrier.
4. I don't have pricing on the swing outs. Bearings and spindle alone are over 65 bucks. I don't really want to give you a quote until I hear back from the CNC machine shop making the hubs for the tire carrier. I am not sure how much the steel is going to run me either. Hopefully I can get this info in a day or so.

Any other questions? Hopefully this helped you.

Very helpful info. Thanks again for checking in to it.

If the whole swing out is too much work, and you want to bag it; an alternative would be for you to do just the swing out arms, and let me build my own tire carrier. That would be a-ok with me.

One thing on the spindles: are these spindles a standard size? The bumper kits will be shipping with a hole pre-drilled for the spindle to be welded in, so I want to make sure I have a source for the correct size spindles.

thanks,

 

[Fourrunner]

I could build the swing out and let you worry about the tire carrier portion. The hole diameter is about 1.75 in diameter and you will need a weldable distance of about 4 inches. Let me know if you cannot find any and maybe I can get some for you and we can work on cost on them plus the tire carrier.

 

[euclid]

I could build the swing out and let you worry about the tire carrier portion. The hole diameter is about 1.75 in diameter and you will need a weldable distance of about 4 inches. Let me know if you cannot find any and maybe I can get some for you and we can work on cost on them plus the tire carrier.

Do you have a reciept or something from when you bought your spindles, that you could get a manufacturer and part number off of?

I like the idea of getting the swing outs from you and then building my own tire carrier. What are the swing outs going to run me?

 

[Fourrunner]

Well, I have still to find a vendor for the outer hub (it has the bearings pressed in). I bought mine a while back and am having issues getting more. I have since drawn the part up and have it sent to a few CNC machine shops. Anyone know of a reasonable shop?

 

[ntsqd]

Machined Delrin bearings or more like the thin walled Nylatron stuff?

 

[Fourrunner]

Machined Delrin bearings or more like the thin walled Nylatron stuff?

No these are tapered roller bearings made by Timken I think. Grease it up and put the cap on and you never have to mess with it again.

 

[ntsqd]

doh! I'm getting pics confused in my head.
Simple 2 op part as I'm sure you know. The issue is the tols for the bearing bores. Low volume is going to make this one unattractive to a lot of shops. If you wanted 100 of them......
First shop that comes to mind is Rincon Engineering. Last I heard their lathe department was a little slow. PM'ing contact info.

 

[Fourrunner]

The ones I have looked like they were milled. It wouldn't be to hard to mill these once you got the CNC pogram set up. Yes, 2 operations (setups) and done. I found some DOM tubing that fits the bill as well, so all you need to do is machine two diameters per end. Simple, but yes you are right, in small qty, they will be costly. Hopefully you guys understand that the tire carriers will be nearly, if not more than the bumper kit because of this. I paid over 50 bucks per when I did mine, but know for certain they will not fail.

 

[Fourrunner]

So can I get a head count on who is still interested in a bumper? I have a couple of details to iron out and I think we might be good to go. Let me know if you are interested still. In order for me to guarantee that price is to have a firm commitment and I think I would like payment up front. We don't want 10 people thinking they want one and only 3 actually order. They will go way up in price. Let me know.

 

[CaliCruiser]

I'm interested

 

[DirtyLittleSecret]

So can I get a head count on who is still interested in a bumper? I have a couple of details to iron out and I think we might be good to go. Let me know if you are interested still. In order for me to guarantee that price is to have a firm commitment and I think I would like payment up front. We don't want 10 people thinking they want one and only 3 actually order. They will go way up in price. Let me know.

Aw heck, if it doesnt fit FJ 62's I will report...Count me in. I want one swing out with the spindle hole on the driver's side, and will be ordering (either with you or the vendor to be) one spindle. Keep me in the know.

Thinking IPOR for spindle, etc...
http://www.ironpigoffroad.com/fab/diy.shtml

 

[PhilC64]

I'm in!

 

[NVFJ60]

Still in. sending PM as well.

 

[FJ60Cam]

Firmly committed!

 

[GLTHFJ60]

I'm still in for a bumper with one swing out mounted on the drivers side as well.

 

[K-808]

Shipping

To all...

As Fourrunner mentioned FedEx for shipping

You can go here...

FedEx Rates and Transit Times

Enter the info that fourrunner supplied; shipping zipcode 83442, package size 60Lx6Wx4H and weight 85lbs, your zipcode and it will give the shipping costs.

My cost to Chico, CA using ground transportation was $41.60 which to me seamed very reasonable.


Calicruiser,

I checked the shipping and it won't save us any money to combine our shipping. Too bad


Fourrunner,

Put me on the list


Thank you

Greg (K-808)

 

[ohrly?]

Now lets see a picture of it dirty.

 

[GLTHFJ60]

updates?

 

[Fourrunner]

I finally got word back on the tire carrier hubs. I don't have enough interest yet to get the original pricing. I will call today and see what kind of pricing I can get with 4-5 kits and let everyone know. Sorry for the delay....more info to come.