Overlandinthesun - London 2 CapeTown HJ60 rebuild

[GLTHFJ60]

Gwynley,

I would have thought your 89 HJ would have come with a FF rear axle, but oh well, not a big deal.

Good luck on your build!!

H55f is the heavy duty 5 speed manual transmission that was used behind Land Cruiser engines like the 3B, 2H, 13B-T, 12H-T, 2F, 3F, 3F-E, 1FZ, 1FZ-FE, 1HZ, 1HD-T, etc. So most likely, it is the H55f if it already has the 5 speed manual. If it's a 4 speed manual, probably H41f or H42f. And 4 speed auto is probably an A440f. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think those are all the transmissions that came stock in the 60 series.

The FZ and HZ series of engines came with the H151 tranny, not the H55, and none of those engines came in 60 series cruisers.

 

[Gwynley]

Thanks!

From what I have seen of the '60s in the UK is that they all have rear drum brakes and only semi floating... Not even sure if you could get fully floating in the UK?

 

[Tinker]

It's +5 Farenheit (-15C?) & snowing here at about 1:30 PM: no workie outside. But the '84's in the heated garage downstairs so I'll putz a little yet today.

Gwyn -
Bet you could sell that rear bumper with the foglights to someone over here! Lots of us like the more obscure accessories. Too bad I can't use them: rear bumper is 3/16x5" C-channel. I'd think you'd have to go to a custom rear too but with swing-away tire mounts.

 

[Gwynley]

Brrr that's a lot colder than here. About 7c (or 45f in your money!)

The rear swings for the two wheels that I am getting are bolted directly to the frame (through the bumper) much much cheaper that buying a Kaymac rear bumper which seemed to be the only company willing to make a dual carrier.

I need two spare wheels, and with a long range fuel tank - none can be underneath. I'm also going to be having a roof top tent and don't really want a wheel on the roof anyway. This seems to be the best option

 

[Ropeman]

Nice looking project Gwynley.

I'm keen to follow your progress as I'm doing a similar thing to my HJ60, off to Morocco in the new year. I'm taking it down to Perth today for a play in the mud, see if I can't provoke some things to fall off.

 

[Yspen]

Gwynley

At the current exchange rate it may be worth your while to see if these guys = IEF Engineering News could ship a rear carrier to you . They have been in the business for years and it is a proven product . Use it myself .

http://www.iefeng.co.za/replacement_bumper_rear_wheel_carriers/images/landcruiser60_image1.jpg

Be sure to meet with us when you arrive in SA : www.landcruiserclub.co.za ( lot of useful tips there re travel in Africa)

 

[Gwynley]

Nice looking project Gwynley.

I'm keen to follow your progress as I'm doing a similar thing to my HJ60, off to Morocco in the new year. I'm taking it down to Perth today for a play in the mud, see if I can't provoke some things to fall off.

Cool! Are you going west Coast? or East? - I'm going East, going from Italy to Tunisia, then Libya - nowhere near Morocco. Have you got a website going?

 

[Gwynley]

Gwynley

At the current exchange rate it may be worth your while to see if these guys = IEF Engineering News could ship a rear carrier to you . They have been in the business for years and it is a proven product . Use it myself .

http://www.iefeng.co.za/replacement_bumper_rear_wheel_carriers/images/landcruiser60_image1.jpg

Be sure to meet with us when you arrive in SA : www.landcruiserclub.co.za ( lot of useful tips there re travel in Africa)

Arhh! that looks better than what I have ordered.. oh well - i'm sure what I have ordered will be cheaper as the shipping is shared with a load of other items. I have joined the Landcruiserclub ZA, i'll start writing a post there at some point - will definatly want to meet people.

Gwyn

 

[Ropeman]

Cool! Are you going west Coast? or East? - I'm going East, going from Italy to Tunisia, then Libya - nowhere near Morocco. Have you got a website going?

First trip is just going to be a shakedown around Morocco, up into the Haute Atlas then over the back and returning to the coast along the Oued Draa. The trip after will be to Timbuctou.

Libya is an interesting choice, I'd love to go but the astounding levels of bureaucracy put me off the idea slightly, are you getting a guide and all that palaver?

Went round the offroad course at Glentarkie yesterday and was frankly amazed at the off road capabilities of my big daft truck. The tow hitch will have to come off as it makes for a ruinous departure angle but the only time it got stuck was on some very deep ruts, the 235 - 70 16 BFG ATs coped superbly with any traction issues but they are just a wee bit short and I bellied out on the diffs. Still, I was happy cruising at 75 all the way back home so a decent compromise for expeditionary use.

If you haven't taken you cruiser on a proper off road course, I'd definitely advise it, the confidence you'll gain is well worth the money.

Hand throttle is a godsend too

 

[Gwynley]

Can't you drive all the way to Timbuctou on dual carriageway now?.. Trip looks cool!

so far the bureaucracy for Sudan and Egypt is worse than Libya. As far as I have worked out, you have to have a fixer - but they do act as a guide and only really heard positive things from other overlanders.

I have done a bit of offroading in the cruiser, but deffo want to go on a proper cause at some point when it is completed. And yes Hand throttle is a godsend in muddy bumpy fields at music festivals...

 

[Sixty's Guy]

Got a bit of news on this - just ordered a 195 litre fuel tank, snorkel, 2x diff Lokka, brand new extra heavy duty suspension with a 2" lift and a dual spare wheel carrier from Welcome to 4WD Systems Online! Tom there has been very helpful! Should be in the UK in the new year!

Let us know how you go with the gear from 4wdsystems. They seem to set up deals with local suppliers, but sell products under their own name cheaper. Their turbo systems are Denco for example. They get a bagging on most Aussie forums, but I have bought a couple of small items off them (cargo barrier and extended brake lines) and they have been fantastic. Their shipping prices are ridiculously cheap too. I have been considering purchasing their long range tank too. I'm sure that they make the tanks themselves.

They are also the manufacturers of the Aussie Lockers - known in Aus as the Lokka. They got in trouble a few years back when they were the the agent for Lock Rights. They lost the agency and were then importing Lock Rights from another source and selling them as Lokkas. Thats when they started making the Lokkas.

 

[Grolar]

First trip is just going to be a shakedown around Morocco, up into the Haute Atlas then over the back and returning to the coast along the Oued Draa. The trip after will be to Timbuctou.

Libya is an interesting choice, I'd love to go but the astounding levels of bureaucracy put me off the idea slightly, are you getting a guide and all that palaver?

Went round the offroad course at Glentarkie yesterday and was frankly amazed at the off road capabilities of my big daft truck. The tow hitch will have to come off as it makes for a ruinous departure angle but the only time it got stuck was on some very deep ruts, the 235 - 70 16 BFG ATs coped superbly with any traction issues but they are just a wee bit short and I bellied out on the diffs. Still, I was happy cruising at 75 all the way back home so a decent compromise for expeditionary use.

If you haven't taken you cruiser on a proper off road course, I'd definitely advise it, the confidence you'll gain is well worth the money.

Hand throttle is a godsend too

Ropeman: Uh-oh. Where do you go from Tombouctou, heading south?
Nigeria: hellhole
DR Republic of Congo: worse.
Angola? Really? What about Chad?
That's a lot of territory to dodge, unless you ship your truck to Namibia - honestly that'd kill the overland fun.
IMHO the sole way through to Cape Town from Yurp is Marseilles to Tunis by boat, (as Morocco-Algeria border has been closed for 10+ years) and then Libya - Egypt - Sudan - Ethiopia - Kenya - Tanzania, etc. Difficult but not undoable. Lots of overlanders do that each year.
EDIT: saw that African Surfer website. Those guys did it so I must retract. Still lots of sweat.

And Gwynley: how about putting together a thread in the Expeditions section with updates, mirroring your nice website? Almost missed this thread because I'm not a 60 guy, but many other Mudders would love to see that, I'm sure. Good luck!

 

[Gwynley]

Let us know how you go with the gear from 4wdsystems. They seem to set up deals with local suppliers, but sell products under their own name cheaper. Their turbo systems are Denco for example. They get a bagging on most Aussie forums, but I have bought a couple of small items off them (cargo barrier and extended brake lines) and they have been fantastic. Their shipping prices are ridiculously cheap too. I have been considering purchasing their long range tank too. I'm sure that they make the tanks themselves.

They are also the manufacturers of the Aussie Lockers - known in Aus as the Lokka. They got in trouble a few years back when they were the the agent for Lock Rights. They lost the agency and were then importing Lock Rights from another source and selling them as Lokkas. Thats when they started making the Lokkas.

I have read a bit on Aussie forums about them, and there is some good stuff - but as you say a lot of slating. But to be fair I find that if you search far enough someone will be unhappy with most companies.. I have found them very useful / helpful so far.

If I had bought all the stuff I am getting from ARB, Longrange, Kaymar it probably would have cost 3-4 times as much and wouldn't be having any lockers at all!

The tank is also a bit larger than longrange 195lt vs 160lt.

We shall see! If stuff breaks, there will be standard spares / bodging in Africa!

Stuff should be with me in a couple of weeks, so I will update then.

 

[Gwynley]

Ropeman: Uh-oh. Where do you go from Tombouctou, heading south?
Nigeria: hellhole
DR Republic of Congo: worse.
Angola? Really? What about Chad?
That's a lot of territory to dodge, unless you ship your truck to Namibia - honestly that'd kill the overland fun.
IMHO the sole way through to Cape Town from Yurp is Marseilles to Tunis by boat, (as Morocco-Algeria border has been closed for 10+ years) and then Libya - Egypt - Sudan - Ethiopia - Kenya - Tanzania, etc. Difficult but not undoable. Lots of overlanders do that each year.
EDIT: saw that African Surfer website. Those guys did it so I must retract. Still lots of sweat.

And Gwynley: how about putting together a thread in the Expeditions section with updates, mirroring your nice website? Almost missed this thread because I'm not a 60 guy, but many other Mudders would love to see that, I'm sure. Good luck!

Hi Grolar! I am actually hearing of more people going west side of Africa, rather than East (which I think is odd, but hey!) Africansurfer website is cool, but that '60 originally came from the UK. A couple took it down to Cape Town on a similar route - have a look at || African Cruiser || Intro Page ||

I will post a bit more about the trip in the other forums as I realise others will be interested, but I wanted this thread mainly to be about the rebuild, which is a bit more '60 specific.

 

[sdtash]

Definatley a well used 60. Good luck. Very interested in your adventure.

 

[Sixty's Guy]

I have read a bit on Aussie forums about them, and there is some good stuff - but as you say a lot of slating. But to be fair I find that if you search far enough someone will be unhappy with most companies.. I have found them very useful / helpful so far.

If I had bought all the stuff I am getting from ARB, Longrange, Kaymar it probably would have cost 3-4 times as much and wouldn't be having any lockers at all!

The tank is also a bit larger than longrange 195lt vs 160lt.

We shall see! If stuff breaks, there will be standard spares / bodging in Africa!

Stuff should be with me in a couple of weeks, so I will update then.

I know what you mean about cost. I bought their Tradesman Cargo Barrier for $292 delivered to Tas. Thats about half price of a Milford and the Tradesman barrier is strong. I want a long range tank and have narrowed it down to the 4wdsystems and Brown Davis. Let me know how you get along with it all.

 

[Gwynley]

Woow woow - excitement today! All my gear from Australia (4wdsystems) arrived today! All looks like it shipped OK and everything is all there which is a good start.. Here are some pics..

Guess which one is the fuel tank?

And the rest of the stuff slowly getting unpacked!

Fuel tank!

Fittings and instructions..

For those who are interested it does have space for fuel return (fits both petrol and diesel landcruiser)

Extra heavy duty suspension (8 leaves at the rear) should cope with fuel tank and 2xwheel carriers.

Lokka's (2x!)

Snorkel

Dual spare wheel carriers, these are chassis mounted through the rear bumper

I had a trial fitting of the fuel tank and all the bolts all seem to line up and gives enough clearance for the exhaust / suspension.

Paint is seriously thin on it though - so I am repainting it before fitting properly!

I'm chuffed!

 

[GLTHFJ60]

That fuel tank looks massive! How big is it?

 

[Spike Strip]

Hey! It looks like you've got SUN ! in London, in January ??

Nice bit of parts, too

Like the tank -- better than the Long Ranger. Bolt holes didn't line up, nor the fuel sender ....

 

[Gwynley]

I'm actually in North Wales - seems to be the only part of the UK that isn't snowing today! London (where I work and live) is like this today

Fuel tank is 195 litres, which is 42.9 UK gallons or 51.2 little US gallons...