O2 Sensor Replacement - 1994 FZJ80

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Figured I'd share my research ansd R&R into 02 sensor replacement for the 93-95 (pre OBD II) trucks.

After my bonzai trip out east with my tandem axle trailer to pick up the back half of a Honda CRV in MD, my SC toasted the original 02 sensors climbing the hills of WV. Bad idle, total crap gas mileage, and stumbling under tip in throttle were the symptoms. BTW, no ck engine light for this. I attributed this to them being 'in range" just slow.

After a lot of research into my options, I decided to try the new Planer style O2 (vs thimble type original) introduced by bosch circa 1998. Basically, the difference is that the thimble style uses slots up the side of the probe to sample, the Planer style has the sampling at the very tip. The protection from contaminants is better with the Planer style, and it is considered to be longer life than the thimble style as well. IMPORTANT NOTE: The Planer style 02 also uses a different resistance heater circuit, which is known to trigger 02 Heater Circuit codes in the OBD II cars and trucks, btdt and also noted btdt on this list. That said, Planer Style works on pre OBD II cars and trucks, because OBD I does not have a feedback loop for the heater circuit. NOTE: Planer Style 02 Sensors can be used interchangeably with thimble type on pre OBDII trucks (specific to the 1FZFE 93-95 all)

Ok, back to the install. First, get heat! The 129k/12yo 10mm nuts on the 02 studs were just about gone on my truck. I heated the nuts up red hot (using a tethered style propane gun), then started backing them off with a pair of pliers, finishing with whatever size ratchet box fit (9-11mm in my case). Second, make sure you have new replacement nuts (they don't come with the sensor), you will be glad you did. I didn't, but used some exhaust type copper nuts I had in the shop. Do NOT use steel for these, unless you are never going to go back at this project again.

Outbound O2. There is a protective heat and crud shield for the outbound 02 sensor. I used pliers and bent back the shield to get access to the outer flange nut. Heat and remove nut. Then used pliers to pivot the shield to get access to the other flange nut. Heat and remove. This gives you a slightly mangled heat shield, but I used pliers to put it back to a protective shape and reused.

Inbound 02. Pretty straight forward since there is no shield on it. Again, heat the nut to red hot, and wrestle out. I suggest the rear nut first, as it's one that requires some contortion around the control arm and body mount. Be careful with the heat on this sensor, the water lines for the rear heater (inspect heater hose and clamps while you are there).

Cut and splice 02. I used Bosch application 15728 universal, which I believe is the 4 wire for the 3FE engine, but it is a direct replacement fit for the 1FZFE. You get a flange gasket, as well as, Bosch's new weathertite connector setup, which IMO/E is one of the best splice setups I've ever worked with. I believe Autozone has the best retail on them at ~60each. Note: 1FZFE sensors have a left and right, in universal applications, just get 2 of either one.

O2 wire Color Code Mr. T - OE
Blue = Signal wire
White = Heater wire 1 (non polarity)
Brown = Heater wire 2 (non polarity)
Grey = Aux Ground

O2 wire Color Codes: Bosch 4 wire sensors use the following code:
Black = signal wire
White = heater wire (non polarity)
White = heater wire 2 (non polarity)
Grey = Aux Ground

Ok, the obvious (T = toyota B = Bosch):
T - Blue > B- Black (MOST IMPORTANT)
T - White > B - White
T- Brown > B- White
T - Grey > B - Grey

About the only thing tricky about the connectors (other than large hands need not apply, er that's me) is that you make sure the wires are oriented to the plugs. I'll post some pics if this gets to the FAQ stage.

I added about 6in to each 02 harness length, so that I had room to put the splice connector somewhere out of the way. Clean off the flanges for the 02's with a small wire brush. Reinstall new gaskets and 02's, string the harnesses, and make sure you tether the outbound harness to the chassis, as the exhaust is right there. Don't forget to put back the heat shield on the outbound 02

Remove 15 amp EFI fuse to reset the computer. This allows the FTU to relearn the fueling needs of your truck after the 02 install.

Right off the bat, my stumbling problems went away, the idle is smoother, and the less that WOT behavior is much better. Here's hoping the gas mileage increase is massive (good luck with that supercharger boy, :doh: )


About 4 banana ( and dirty job) ~ 2hours realistic install time


HTH

ST
94 FZJ 80 Supercharged (new Bosch 15728 x 2)
 
Figured I'd share my research ansd R&R into 02 sensor replacement for the 93-95 (pre OBD II) trucks.

After my bonzai trip out east with my tandem axle trailer to pick up the back half of a Honda CRV in MD, my SC toasted the original 02 sensors climbing the hills of WV. Bad idle, total crap gas mileage, and stumbling under tip in throttle were the symptoms. BTW, no ck engine light for this. I attributed this to them being 'in range" just slow.

After a lot of research into my options, I decided to try the new Planer style O2 (vs thimble type original) introduced by bosch circa 1998. Basically, the difference is that the thimble style uses slots up the side of the probe to sample, the Planer style has the sampling at the very tip. The protection from contaminants is better with the Planer style, and it is considered to be longer life than the thimble style as well. IMPORTANT NOTE: The Planer style 02 also uses a different resistance heater circuit, which is known to trigger 02 Heater Circuit codes in the OBD II cars and trucks, btdt and also noted btdt on this list. That said, Planer Style works on pre OBD II cars and trucks, because OBD I does not have a feedback loop for the heater circuit. NOTE: Planer Style 02 Sensors can be used interchangeably with thimble type on pre OBDII trucks (specific to the 1FZFE 93-95 all)

Ok, back to the install. First, get heat! The 129k/12yo 10mm nuts on the 02 studs were just about gone on my truck. I heated the nuts up red hot (using a tethered style propane gun), then started backing them off with a pair of pliers, finishing with whatever size ratchet box fit (9-11mm in my case). Second, make sure you have new replacement nuts (they don't come with the sensor), you will be glad you did. I didn't, but used some exhaust type copper nuts I had in the shop. Do NOT use steel for these, unless you are never going to go back at this project again.

Outbound O2. There is a protective heat and crud shield for the outbound 02 sensor. I used pliers and bent back the shield to get access to the outer flange nut. Heat and remove nut. Then used pliers to pivot the shield to get access to the other flange nut. Heat and remove. This gives you a slightly mangled heat shield, but I used pliers to put it back to a protective shape and reused.

Inbound 02. Pretty straight forward since there is no shield on it. Again, heat the nut to red hot, and wrestle out. I suggest the rear nut first, as it's one that requires some contortion around the control arm and body mount. Be careful with the heat on this sensor, the water lines for the rear heater (inspect heater hose and clamps while you are there).

Cut and splice 02. I used Bosch application 15728 universal, which I believe is the 4 wire for the 3FE engine, but it is a direct replacement fit for the 1FZFE. You get a flange gasket, as well as, Bosch's new weathertite connector setup, which IMO/E is one of the best splice setups I've ever worked with. I believe Autozone has the best retail on them at ~60each. Note: 1FZFE sensors have a left and right, in universal applications, just get 2 of either one.

O2 wire Color Code Mr. T - OE
Blue = Signal wire
White = Heater wire 1 (non polarity)
Brown = Heater wire 2 (non polarity)
Grey = Aux Ground

O2 wire Color Codes: Bosch 4 wire sensors use the following code:
Black = signal wire
White = heater wire (non polarity)
White = heater wire 2 (non polarity)
Grey = Aux Ground

Ok, the obvious (T = toyota B = Bosch):
T - Blue > B- Black (MOST IMPORTANT)
T - White > B - White
T- Brown > B- White
T - Grey > B - Grey

About the only thing tricky about the connectors (other than large hands need not apply, er that's me) is that you make sure the wires are oriented to the plugs. I'll post some pics if this gets to the FAQ stage.

I added about 6in to each 02 harness length, so that I had room to put the splice connector somewhere out of the way. Clean off the flanges for the 02's with a small wire brush. Reinstall new gaskets and 02's, string the harnesses, and make sure you tether the outbound harness to the chassis, as the exhaust is right there. Don't forget to put back the heat shield on the outbound 02

Remove 15 amp EFI fuse to reset the computer. This allows the FTU to relearn the fueling needs of your truck after the 02 install.

Right off the bat, my stumbling problems went away, the idle is smoother, and the less that WOT behavior is much better. Here's hoping the gas mileage increase is massive (good luck with that supercharger boy, :doh: )


About 4 banana ( and dirty job) ~ 2hours realistic install time


HTH

ST
94 FZJ 80 Supercharged (new Bosch 15728 x 2)

Nicely done Scott...:cheers:

I recently did mine, and I spent a while with a pad and pen, under my truck on my back equating the colors and the like as well. I bought the Toyota OEM's, but a couple of wires had disconnected from the harnesses. I too spent time splicing and dicing, adding some length.

But when all was said and done (and EFI removed and replaced), my CEL still tripped, again with an O2 code, but a different one this time.

Will a different gauge length of wire hinder performance of the new O2's?

I've got my smog check coming up soon here and I need to "redo" these.....:mad: :mad:

Argh....

Thanks again. I appreciate your informative research.

Best.
-onur
Oberlin, OH
 
Ah, good stuff to know. Post some pics of same if u have the time.

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Nicely done Scott...:cheers:

I recently did mine, and I spent a while with a pad and pen, under my truck on my back equating the colors and the like as well. I bought the Toyota OEM's, but a couple of wires had disconnected from the harnesses. I too spent time splicing and dicing, adding some length.

But when all was said and done (and EFI removed and replaced), my CEL still tripped, again with an O2 code, but a different one this time.

Will a different gauge length of wire hinder performance of the new O2's?

I've got my smog check coming up soon here and I need to "redo" these.....:mad: :mad:

Argh....

Thanks again. I appreciate your informative research.

Best.
-onur
Oberlin, OH

Which year truck, which code? The connectors orientation is identical between the two oxygen sensors, so make sure connector has the wires in the proper place. If a 'different' 02 code, that's probably an indication that you have a crossed up wire. The key is the black to blue signal wire in terms of 'damage' to the FTU, as that's a .1-.9 volt input. I suspect if you had put the heater + to that wire, you will toast the FTU. A ground to that wire would probably trigger an 02 heater code (OBDII) or a out of range signal code (OBDI and/or OBDII).

I'd get this right immediately. Your best hope is that the heater ground is hooked up to the signal wire. Adding wire shouldn't affect the reading, but if you soldered the signal wire reference, that can cause problems IME. Crimp only is the word from Bosch.

You can also reference the actual O2 output by using the diagnostic plug with a NO LOAD voltmeter. The FSM gives the locationi for both sensors on teh diag plug. This might help you figure out what's wrong.

HTH

ST
 
Which year truck, which code? The connectors orientation is identical between the two oxygen sensors, so make sure connector has the wires in the proper place. If a 'different' 02 code, that's probably an indication that you have a crossed up wire. The key is the black to blue signal wire in terms of 'damage' to the FTU, as that's a .1-.9 volt input. I suspect if you had put the heater + to that wire, you will toast the FTU. A ground to that wire would probably trigger an 02 heater code (OBDII) or a out of range signal code (OBDI and/or OBDII).

I'd get this right immediately. Your best hope is that the heater ground is hooked up to the signal wire. Adding wire shouldn't affect the reading, but if you soldered the signal wire reference, that can cause problems IME. Crimp only is the word from Bosch.

You can also reference the actual O2 output by using the diagnostic plug with a NO LOAD voltmeter. The FSM gives the locationi for both sensors on teh diag plug. This might help you figure out what's wrong.

HTH

ST

Hi Scott--thanks for the information. Mine's a 97 and the initial CEL was 0125 (insuffiecient coolant temp. for O2)....after the splice and dice on the O2 I received a 0135 which was a sensor 1 malfunction (the one I spliced in)...

I will check the color correspondences again and re connect as needed. I have driven about 500 miles with the condition this way after the splice. Do you think I have harmed that first sensor?

Thanks again for the expert info.
Best.
-onur
Oberlin, OH
 
Hi Scott--thanks for the information. Mine's a 97 and the initial CEL was 0125 (insuffiecient coolant temp. for O2)....after the splice and dice on the O2 I received a 0135 which was a sensor 1 malfunction (the one I spliced in)...

I will check the color correspondences again and re connect as needed. I have driven about 500 miles with the condition this way after the splice. Do you think I have harmed that first sensor?


According to my OBDII codes, P0135 shows as heater circuit sensor 1 bank 1. Ck wiring, I suspect you have a missing ground, or the grey wire (aux ground on the engine side of the plug) mixed up with the brown 02 heater circuit ground on the sensor side of the plug. This will change the resistance of the heater circuit enough to cause a 0135 code, btdt. Doing this usually doesn't affect anything, though I suspect grey to the positive heater feed might

Also reread my note on thimble vs planer style 02 in my original post. If the replacement you put in is a planer stye, you will code P0135 hooking the wires up correctly.

Comments on P0125
P0125 code shouldn't have disappeared with an 02 replacement. The most common for this is bad thermostat. Also a bad Engine temp sender can be the cause as well. This code indicates your engine temp isn't high enough to give closed loop 02 opearation. That's usually not an 02 sensor fix, but I have seen it once where the resulting rich fuel table caused the engine to run cooler. I really doubt that is what you have.


HTH

ST
 
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UPDATE - Des Moine IA and back to Chicago

Just tossed on a 500 mile trip with the tandem trailer to pick up an urquattro in Des Moines with the universal Planer Style 02's (Bosch 15728) installed in my 94 SC truck. A lot less kickdown out of overdrive climbing hills, and the mileage bump unloaded and loaded trailer increased by about 2mpg (16out and 13back) respectively.

No CEL, this appears to be a cost effective alternative to the tythe to 'O Keeper of Parts.


:beer:
ST
 
How was the SC responcible for "toasting" the O2 sensors?

A lot of heat is generated in those cats climbing hills. Sustained boost is known to add to that problem. Could be too, it's just a 129k kill. Observation was made after several long on boost climbs in WV mountains.

And I can't imagine anyone going through that much trouble just to use aftermarket parts.

Trouble? The only trouble I encountered was removing the old 02 sensors. Splicing in the universal 02's with Bosch new weatherproof connector was a pleasure, as I knew without question that the splice connector was better than what Mr. T delivers from the factory. We just don't see that very often in aftermarket stuff.

About 1/2 hour to do the actual splicing. A 120USD retail plug-in alternative to the factory part, and a long-life planer styel 02 sensor to boot.

I see this as an upgrade *and* a cost savings, not trouble, Rick.

YMMV
ST
 
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I see O2 sensors that needed to be replaced, and a factory waterproof harness cut into for only a cost benefit.

??? I used the O2 sensor side of the harness only. Where it plugs into the FTU side ("factory waterproof plug") is completely untouched. IOW, you reuse the downstream plug and part of the harness you normally would throw away. The COST of *any* 02 that plugs into the factory plug, is only the incremental dollars from the 02 to/and the plug. A bit of shopping on the inet, the universal planer style could be had for under 100pr to your door. I see a Planer app as better than a thimble application. I posted the above, because there is no universal Planer application listed for the 1FZFE engine. 15728 x 2 certainly can be, no modification required for left or right sensor application. You use only what's in the box.

Personally for me "SPLICING" doesn't constitute plug and play.

Personally, for me, plug and play means that what you end up with is as good or better than what came from the factory, and that the stock application can still be put in it's place (that can be done here). A Planer style 02 sensor is better than what Mr. T delivered from the factory, and the splice connector plug is better than the stock connector Mr. T delivered with the stock 02 from the factory. What I put forth Rick, is a plug and play Planer style 02 sensor application for the 1FZFE that isn't offered anywhere for the 93-95 trucks. With gasket, toyota flange style 02, plug and play replacement 4 wire interchangeability.

I knew this wouldn't go over well with the purists. I encourage you to read up on the advantages of Planer style 02 sensors Rick. It's the replacement standard for the thimble style. And other than the 96-98 OBDII trucks, it's backwards compatable with all thimble style 02's on the 1FZFE application.

You certainly can go stock, I missed your point on the "trouble". I expected trouble removing the 12year old ones, and got it. The original intent of my post, wasn't to debate the factory application merits, only give the technical R&R procedure for an unlisted alternative application. I'm quite comfortable debating 02 sensor differences and advantages vs the factory application in some other thread. That just wasn't at all the intended purpose of the above post.

ST
 
I got confused on how you installed the aftermarket sensors. So you basically made an adapter harness out of the pig tail of the old sensor and a supplied harness from the new sensor.

I'd be interested to see if you get any real benefit from these better sensors. I thought there was a recall on the original ones used and if those were the factory installed ones then replacements would have been free. If they were replaced then you might get an idea of how long they lasted.
 
I got confused on how you installed the aftermarket sensors. So you basically made an adapter harness out of the pig tail of the old sensor and a supplied harness from the new sensor.

Bosch 15728 comes with 18in pigtail of wires, color coded as noted in post 1

On truck:
- The female 02 plug stays complete and in the stock location (frame rail and quarter panel respectively
- The male side of the original 02 plug is cut with pigtail wires about 6in back
- Cut about 1 foot off the new 02 pigtail
- Use supplied connector to attach new 02 to old 02 pigtail and plug
- plug and play

I'd be interested to see if you get any real benefit from these better sensors. I thought there was a recall on the original ones used and if those were the factory installed ones then replacements would have been free. If they were replaced then you might get an idea of how long they lasted.

My 94 truck was end of m.y. purchase, the Oct 95 Dr-978 Recall was done at <3600 miles in 12/95. So in my case ~125k.

Rick, I do this Planer style swap all the time on the turbo cars in my shop. The big advantage to Planer style is that sensor contamination is massively reduced. Flame burnout/HC drowning of the planer style is all but eliminated, since you can't blow exhaust directly onto the ceramic. It also uses a much more efficient heating element. And the construction of the sensor itself is much less prone to vibration failures and/or wire>02 resistance failure.

I have a couple hundred thousand miles of feedback in my shop with the universal planer style 02. I even use the universal 4 wire Planer for 3 wire 02's back to 1985 (and just hook up the aux ground to an aux ground on the engine), and plan on putting it in a couple as replacements for 1 wire applications in the next few weeks.. So far, I run about double the life using the Planer, even in the most tweeked of turbo cars (some which blew out 02's in less than 25k).

I'm convinced that thimble style 02's will eventually just become NLA as the licensing for Planer becomes availalbe. I have read nothing to indicate that Bosch is ready to release that licensing yet, but their price on Planer style is already quite competitive to the thimble app.

I suspect too (no btdt), that a matching resistor in the heater circuit line to the FT"U would eliminate the OBDII P0135 (heater circuit malfunction) coding on the 96-98 cars and trucks (including the 1FZFE). IME, as of 1999, most OBDII systems can accomodate the new heater resistance circuit.

Cheers

ST
 
More on 02 Differences

you're the first one that I know of that has attributed a SC to failing O2 sensors. Maybe the other guys with forced induction can offer some first hand experience that might support this claim. But I can't recall anyone with an abnormal amount of re-accuring failures.

Yer kidding right?!?! :) In my case, just the fact my 02 sensors lasted 125k is fine with me (almost 20k with the SC). However, they certainly could have lasted longer without forced induction. Rick, the reason all factory turbo and SC applications use a different 02 than a normally aspirated engine is exactly that forced induction requires better ceramic protection and lower (less exposed) sampling profile. The Planer style 02 should reduce that known issue significantly.

Bosch confirms in in their catalog that if you are going forced induction, a different 02 sensor is specified. As a rule, even on the thimble types, the sampling slots are less in number on a forced inducted engine. It's not my opinion, it's how 02 sampling works to pass EPA mandated emission warrantees.

That said, any narrow band 02 sensor will work in place of any other narrow band 02. What makes them different, is the sampling tip in term of the amount of ceramic exposure, and depth into the exhaust stream, and FTU connector. Otherwise, all thimble style 02's use the same ceramic element. 1,2,3, 4 wire 02 are all interchangeable, btdt. It's how long they last in a mismatched application that's the key. As my customers find out, even just turning *up* boost will reduce factory turbo 02 life significantly.

It's well known and documented that forced induction is harder on 02 sensors. In a 8psi 1FZFE application the ceramic in the thimble style is exposed to 1/3 more exhaust volume by definition. And at higher exhaust temps as well (more exhaust thru the same size tube = more exhaust heat). I spent the time researching the Planer style cross app, because before I did so, there was no listed alternative *upgrade* to the factory 02 in the 1FZFE motor. In a forced induction 1FZFE, I believe the documentation exists that an upgrade to the factory 02 app is dictated/desired?

ST
 
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Yer kidding right?!?! :)


Nope, not at all. Do a search and I think you'll find zero posts attributing early O2 failure to SCs. Dan might be the best place to start as he was one of the first to bolt one on and has probably the best records of vehicle maintenance on the planet.
 
02 Sensors old- Thimble vs new-Planer -- Long

Nope, not at all. Do a search and I think you'll find zero posts attributing early O2 failure to SCs. Dan might be the best place to start as he was one of the first to bolt one on and has probably the best records of vehicle maintenance on the planet.

02's age, and fail. That's not an if, that's a when. The knowns we have... The oxygens sensor specified for the 93-95 trucks (actually all 1FZFE applications) are for normally aspirated engine applications. They also use a thimble style 02 sensor which is known to have a lower life expectancy than the Planer style that replaced it (and wasn't available to 93-97 trucks). With 8 psi boost, you are sending 1/3 more exhaust flow past an 02 with a sampling tip designed for ceramic exposure to a normally aspirated exhaust flow. That would indicate that 02 life is reduced. How far? Who knows? I take it further and say, who cares?

If we take the new Planer style (long life) 02 with a much better protected ceramic element, and put it in a application where effective (boost resulting) higher ceramic exposure is present, we can expect longer life, and better performance.

If you want to concentrate on SC or turbo *causing* failure, that necessitates understanding the differences between 02 sensor tip design. As a rule, thimble style 02's in normally aspirated motors will have a larger exposure (more sampling slits in the tip) to the ceramic element vs the same engine with a turbo or forced induction application. This is the biggest difference between narrow band 02 tip applications. The new Planer style tip really created a much wider window to airflow differences (read fixed number of sampling by moving the sampling to the end of the probe instead of the sides of the probe). This is confirmed in Bosch e-catalog applications listings in a variety of N/A vs boosted engines... For example

If we look at a turbo vs N/A application, say a mitsu 3 liter 1992 (Stealth ES 3.0 N/A vs Stealth RT 3.0 twin turbo)... In the Thimble 02 applications, they show 2 different applications for the the 2 vehicles, in OE and universal thmible application. In the Planer style 02 universal application, they show 1 Planer style sensor for both the N/A and the twin turbo application. Which exactly translated, the thimble style has and needs a different tip (same harness) for N/A vs turbo application. The Planer style can use the same tip. What's the difference?

As was explained to me by a Bosch engineer, the Planer syle tip is similar to blowing exhaust over a coke boltte. Blow harder, the ceramic tip exposure doesn't change. On a thimble type, you blow harder, you have to effectively decrease the sampling slit size to have the same ceramic exposure. Which means, if you use the stock 02 in a turbo/SC application, you haven't addressed the 02 sensor in that 'upgrade'. Will the stock 02 WORK? Sure it will, so would a lot of others.

Again, the purpose of post 1 was to provide a cost effective upgrade and alternative to the stock thimble style 02 application for the 93-95 1FZFE truck. The benefit to this application is that it should provide long life expectancy *and* give better 02 performance and longevity in SC/Turbo applications by addressing the effective ceramic exposure.

As Bosch and Denso already have partnership relations, it's only a matter of time before thimble style is NLA IMO. The biggest problem I see with it now is the different heater circuit design problems inherent to OBDII from 1997-2002. A good time to have an OBDI 1FZFE?

ST
 
copper nuts for O2 sensor

I second that inquiry.

I just had an O2 sensor pop off of the manifold during a 550 mile trip home. I was able to wire the bugger back on for the rest of the trip but need to properly repair it. 10MM?...what thread pitch and copper?

I just read an owner useing stainless nuts. Is the exhaust stainless, including the threaded posts the nuts mount to? I have concerns about damaging the posts.
 
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Scott,

Excellent info and thanks for the writeup. I didn't know about the diff style of O2 sensors so I learned something.

Let us know after a few more tankfuls have gone through the system.
 
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