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For Sale NOT FOR SALE 1996 FZJ80 with 4BD2T diesel swap, locked, expedition ready, Oregon
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So I assume you still have this gem??
Interested, but in the People's Republic of California. I could have swore I saw somewhere in your post or the previous that this was smog-certified for CA. If true.... we may very well need to talk!
Geez. I'm a retard. I reread. Found the info.
I'll send you a PM.
Quick question - MPG? I know the original owner and actually had the original motor out of this at one time. Last I knew it was up at 4x4 labs with Luke.
Bump for great vehicle.
Bump for great vehicle.
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I get around 22mpg.
I don't know where the engine was before Chris bought it but Chris did we swap in 2012 and I bought it from Chris in late 2013.
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When I posted this add I wanted to sell this vehicle because I didn't use it much and I had the intention to get something else. Since posting I have purchased something else that suits my heavier towing needs. I don't think we need 4 vehicle around the house for 2 drivers but we are Americans after all so why not!
I had not expected the great number of people that want to talk about a vehicle like this and want details about diesel swaps... I feel that the huge drop in fuel prices have also eroded the demand for a 22mpg diesel land cruiser.
We are moving soon and the new place has plenty of parking so I have decided to keep the vehicle for now in part because it is a dream grade land cruiser. It is also in part because I have run out of patience with the constant flow of tire kickers that for some reason all feel the need to provide some excuse at the end of each long conversation for why they aren't buying it.
I had not expected the great number of people that want to talk about a vehicle like this and want details about diesel swaps... I feel that the huge drop in fuel prices have also eroded the demand for a 22mpg diesel land cruiser.
We are moving soon and the new place has plenty of parking so I have decided to keep the vehicle for now in part because it is a dream grade land cruiser. It is also in part because I have run out of patience with the constant flow of tire kickers that for some reason all feel the need to provide some excuse at the end of each long conversation for why they aren't buying it.
I imagine the influx of 1hd-t cruisers is having a significant impact on the uniqueness of your diesel build. In the last week alone two hdj81s sold for 13k and 9k.
Personally, I'd rather have one of those with a FSM and the wealth of knowledge on the engine on this board alone, rather than messing with someone else's custom (read: often indecipherable) powertrain swap
That said, I am sorry you are unable to recover enough from your diesel build. Good luck with whatever you decide to do with it
Personally, I'd rather have one of those with a FSM and the wealth of knowledge on the engine on this board alone, rather than messing with someone else's custom (read: often indecipherable) powertrain swap
That said, I am sorry you are unable to recover enough from your diesel build. Good luck with whatever you decide to do with it
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Actually I don't think the HDs you are talking about don't have a great deal to do with it for 4 reasons, parts availability, overall mileage, left hand drive, and "indecipherable power train".
When I did a search for hd-t, most of the ones I found were mostly in the $19-25K price range. Kudos to anyone that can get one that isn't a rust bucket or has a billion miles on it for 9-13k. The one I found that was less expensive was a high mile RHD.
A FSM will do you little good if you cant get the parts. The Isuzu 4bd2t is everywhere, half of the landscapers and all of the appliance and furniture stores in my town use NPR box trucks. The manual for the engine is available and all of the diesel shops have probably worked on at least one already. I live in a town of 50K people and they have all the filters and some parts in stock, no ordering from Canada, Japan, or Australia needed at my local pasts store. The transmission I have is a super common GM model with parts everywhere too.
The Mileage on my engine is around 50K and most of the drive train has around 30K since rebuild as well as most of the suspension components. With the exception of the body, glass, and wiring my rig is practically a 2012 FJ80. I don't know the specific cheep hdts you were referring to but I would bet they had lots of miles on all parts of them with very little or no rebuilt major drive components at that price.
My cruiser is a left hand drive. I have noticed that many of the cheaper ones for sale are right hand drive. A right hand drive is a great conversations piece but If you try to drive them every day and you have to go through a drive up window for coffee, food, banking, parking garages, or paying a toll they become a total PITA and simply are not so cute.
I have a very well defined power train, Isuzu motor attached to a GM transmission with an adapter to a toyota split case. Because diesels have fewer options and fewer components from my experience they tend to be less of a frankencruiser than their gasoline counterparts. To be honest the 2 WORST cruisers for being a crazy mix that I have experienced were both gas and one a fj40 and the other a fj45. The fj40 was my first cruiser and I didn't know what I was buying at the time. It was a 1969 FJ40 with a downey top shift 3speed from a71, a 73 TC and a mid year 75 2f. On this it had a custom exhaust header, Offenhauser intake and a holly 4 barrel carb. All this at atop a homebrew SOA and 71 axles. For the icing on the cake the power steering was a saginaw that they had taken from the box to the steering wheel so I had a tilt wheel GM steering column with a key on the right side that didn't do anything but unlock the steering wheel. The FJ45 was slightly better with a gm350 swap that was moved forward so it didn't hit the firewall and little bits of all kinds of cars to fill in the missing pieces from on the abused FJ45LV.
With all due respect, 17k is quite high for a swapped truck when HDJ's are coming in left and right. Again, I mean no disrespect, but for a non-OEM engine, 17k is too much. There are some situations in which you have to have a mechanic, no matter how good you are at wrenching. If you're 8,000 miles from home, your truck got broken into, your tools stolen, etc. And a mechanic is going to pop the hood and be like "I dunno bro". A lot of the HDJ's coming in have fewer than 100k on them, and were only driven around on clean Japanese highways. They're a great bargain.
You've built a beautiful truck and put a lot of time and effort into it. Were I you, I'd hold onto it. I'll pass it along to anyone I know who wants a swapped 80, though.
You've built a beautiful truck and put a lot of time and effort into it. Were I you, I'd hold onto it. I'll pass it along to anyone I know who wants a swapped 80, though.
Oh dear.
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First and foremost this is the CLASSIFIED section of the forum. If you would like to engage is DISCUSSION or CHIT-CHAT then both of those sections exist on this very board BUT this is a place for BUYERS and SELLERS!
I would like to thank you for bringing to our attention a tragedy in our nation; One in five Florida adults lack basic literacy skills. "Almost all Level 1 adults could read a little, but not well enough to fill out an application, read a food label, or read a simple story to a child."
What do low literacy and limited English proficiency mean? - Low Limited - Publications - Planning - FHWA
http://www.floridaliteracy.org/NAALPressRelease11209.pdf
If you would look just a little bit up from your post at #54 you will see that I have already said I am keeping my cruiser; so please don't "pass along" anything other than the fact that this cruiser is NOT FOR SALE and the classified sections should be for BUYERS and SELLERS ONLY.
I got a good piece of advice a long time ago and I will pass it on to all of you. If you have to preface a statements with: I mean no disrespect but, I don't mean to intrude but, It really isn't my place but, No offence but..... you should JUST STOP; don't finish the sentence and keep it to yourself.
As for what motor is recognized by a backwoods mechanic I would first like to point out that in the very post just above your statement I am explaining that the Isuzu motor in this is the one that is in the very common NPR box trucks. I live in a small rural town and in my town the furniture store has three NPR box trucks, the appliance store has 2, there is a NPR tow truck and both of the big landscapers in town have the flat-bed NPR diesel trucks. The small NAPA in town keeps several of the fuel and oil filters in stock because these engines are so prevalent. In a scenario where I were to be broken down in a rural location and needing some expertise or parts and go to this fictitious local mechanic with my Isuzu diesel he would probably tell me he has worked on several NPRs and his brother in law drives one to deliver _______ and just loves the thing. Now if I were to go to this same guy with an HDT he would tell me he has never heard of a Toyota with a diesel, he and his buddies have never seen one and the nearest Toyota dealership is over 200 miles away. Unless I am in Canada this imagined dealership will tell me that just like the 2 banana mechanic I talked to first they have never seen a Toyota Diesel but could order the parts and have them for me in a week or two.
I am done feeding the trolls for today. Goodnight!
Toyota: Land Cruiser HDJ81VX-Limited Turbo Diesel JDM RHD
Toyota: Land Cruiser HDJ81
And that was in the last few weeks alone. I suspect, as we're only two years into the 1hd-t market, we're going to be flooded with ihd-t/ft/fte cruisers in the next few years.
Diesel & Non USA Sections : CruiserParts.net, Toyota Landcruiser Parts
Granted its not comprehensive, but again, as we get more of these cruisers stateside, there should quickly be a complete inventory of parts required to service any powertrain component. Moreover, the IHZ base powerplant is still in production. That says something about how durable/available it is.
I have no idea how the details of your conversion manifest into repairability--perhaps whoever undertook the conversion was very conscientious about ensuring future wrenchers would have an easy go at repairing it. But from my experience (albeit mostly with small block chevys shoehorned into 60 series engine bays) the end result is a rat's nest of wiring and design compromises that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
With the ongoing influx of diesel 80s (some w/ 5 spds and built in winches/tire carriers) and attendant availability of parts, it makes sense that the market for isuzu/cummins conversions would suffer.
You appear to be taking this much too personally (literacy lessons??), especially for someone who does not appear to be the original builder. I would also add that a discussion on your pricing is not inappropriate for this thread considering the failed attempt at a sale, nor does your rambling diatribe constitute a reasonable argument that the discussion needs to be moved to another section. Perhaps a little perspective is not such a bad thing. In any case, good luck to you sir.
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Noticed you posted these "pricing examples" in another thread, so I'll repeat my comments here.
The first link is an automatic without locking differentials and an odometer discrepancy.
The second link is a truck that didn't sell and was labeled wrecked/repaired when it was for sale in Japan.
I don't think your price comparisons are at all accurate.
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jkcruiser WOW another gator fan!
I have offered no literacy lessons but they are needed. This is the classified section, not the discussion area. You haven’t seen my cruiser or any of these grey market/branded title junkers and are just blowing smoke about; and posting where it clearly isn't wanted. The CLASSIFIED SECTION IS FOR BUYERS AND SELLER! TAKE YOUR UNWANTED COMMENTS TO THE RIGHT SECTION!!!!
THIS THREAD SHOULD DIE because it is a classified add I am NOT selling the rig to any of you.
I have offered no literacy lessons but they are needed. This is the classified section, not the discussion area. You haven’t seen my cruiser or any of these grey market/branded title junkers and are just blowing smoke about; and posting where it clearly isn't wanted. The CLASSIFIED SECTION IS FOR BUYERS AND SELLER! TAKE YOUR UNWANTED COMMENTS TO THE RIGHT SECTION!!!!
THIS THREAD SHOULD DIE because it is a classified add I am NOT selling the rig to any of you.
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