New Metal Tech Tube Bumper

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Mark .. I thought the bumper is great .. just waiting to see one black pouder coated and with a big winch on it ( aka 12,000 )
 
Anders said:
First off, very sweet:cheers: I like the lines, and it's very much what I had in mind as the ideal bumper. Couple Qs . . .

How does the winch mount on this? Does it bolt to the bottom? i.e. would a 9000i (bolts on the bottom) fit?

Also, on lights. You said it would fit a 6" light. Any thoughts on the Hella 4000 Compacts? They have a dia of 6.7" and a depth of 4.5."
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Yes the winch does bolt to the bottom of the plate like the 9000i. I don't think those would be a problem at all. Here is the PIAA dimensions to compare to your lights

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Tapage said:
Mark .. I thought the bumper is great .. just waiting to see one black pouder coated and with a big winch on it ( aka 12,000 )
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The 12000lb will not fit, simply too big to fit between the frame rails and for us to adjust for the larger winch would offset the fairlead a great deal to one side making the look of the bumper funny.

Winches that would work are

XD9000

XD9000i I am not sure on the height but I believe it would work with the given space.

9.5xp
 
the Milemarker Supreme V-10 I just ordered better fit..... ;)

[Overall Dimension (LxWxH) 20.8 in x 6.63 in x 8.83 in]
 
LT said:
The 12000lb will not fit, simply too big to fit between the frame rails and for us to adjust for the larger winch would offset the fairlead a great deal to one side making the look of the bumper funny.

Winches that would work are

XD9000

XD9000i I am not sure on the height but I believe it would work with the given space.

9.5xp
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Thought the MM and T-Max 12000 winches are less bigger than Warn for example .. can you ( when you get time ) draw some lines just fo figure how can look the bumper with the mods necesary to allow a 12k winch on it .. or over the frame rails .. ?

For the kind of off road that we do down here .. the winch it's important .. bigger it's more importan.
 
Tapage said:
Thought the MM and T-Max 12000 winches are less bigger than Warn for example .. can you ( when you get time ) draw some lines just fo figure how can look the bumper with the mods necesary to allow a 12k winch on it .. or over the frame rails .. ?

For the kind of off road that we do down here .. the winch it's important .. bigger it's more importan.
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Yeah when time permits it'd be nice to know the dimensions a winch would have to work with. I'm interested in the bumper and perhaps this: EPi9 9,000 lbs EPi Series 4x4 - Superwinch
 
Just a heads up I do have one tube bumper with the large stinger available sitting on the shop floor from the beta production round. I can let it go for $550, it has a hand built a/c cannister guard and light mount tabs.
 
helocat said:
Simple answer is yes it will take those in stride.

The lower support tube from the wing to the frame is actually behind the top main tube. This helps triangulate the outer wing. Also the support tube comes into the tail end of the bend on the main tube sporting the outer wing for guys like creepersleeper! The proto type is on my orange FZJ and the outer wings fended off rocks/trees that used to fold in the ARB bumper back in the day. (my fenders like others have the ARB dents from the sheet metal wings rolling back) The tubing can take the hit and NOT fold back hitting the body.

However since our tube is SRA (stress relived) if hit hard enough, like a crash it will start to bend before going into critical failure (crack) like cheep DOM will.

This bumper is 100% performance built. It is meant to get out and be used. (like the other parts we make.) Our goal with this bumper was to make a lightweight, high clearance winch capable bumper that can take a beating AND keep it under $800. We did it for $650.

Mark
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The other reality is tube bumpers that are tucked up tight are extremely difficult to hit hard on the upper bar unless you are in a traffic accident. You'd be ramming obstacles (like trees) at speed to do this.

The wing structure on an 80 is critical, because you cannot brace it back to the frame directly, and this is where the triangulation provides the strength, particularly as you set the lower bar behind the upper (mine is built this way as well).

The simple reality is that if you are used to a lot of bumper contact, setting a high and tight tube bumper will pull the bumper up to the very top of your approach angle.

I didn't even design the wings outside of my body lines, because I wheel in a dry rock climate that is typically very controlled (crawling) vs. a wet climate where momentum may be part of the game (and therefore a lot of potential sideways sliding).

If I hit the under wing of my bumper, which given I have relocated my AC dryer is incredibly tight as you get out to the wings, it is in a crawling environment where it is sliding upwards, not an at-speed impact environment, although I'd still rather have it for an impact environment over a standard stamped bumper, because those things bend like butter even at 3/16" if you whack them. At 1/8" on the wings you can look at a stamped bumper wrong and it will bend.

As with all things, it's what you do with it that matters, but there's a good reason roll cages are made from tube.
 
Do you have any new pictures? Maybe one that has been powder coated?
 
Metal Tech bumper with Superwinch EP9000

4WD Toyota Owner took delivery of one of the first Metal Tech 80-series tube bumpers and it's awesome. One of the earlier posts here asked about Superwinch, yes, ours fit perfectly--here is a photo of the whole setup on senior editor Ben Crockett's 1994 FZJ80. We'll be doing a full feature on the bumper in the May/June issue. It's a great setup--stoked to have it!
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4WD Toyota Owner Magazine said:
4WD Toyota Owner took delivery of one of the first Metal Tech 80-series tube bumpers and it's awesome. One of the earlier posts here asked about Superwinch, yes, ours fit perfectly--here is a photo of the whole setup on senior editor Ben Crockett's 1994 FZJ80. We'll be doing a full feature on the bumper in the May/June issue. It's a great setup--stoked to have it!
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Thanks! That was me asking about the superwinch. That's the Superwinch EP9.0 right? :cheers:
 
Drooooooooooolllllllll............

see you guys in a couple weeks LT.
 
4WD Toyota Owner Magazine said:
4WD Toyota Owner took delivery of one of the first Metal Tech 80-series tube bumpers and it's awesome. One of the earlier posts here asked about Superwinch, yes, ours fit perfectly--here is a photo of the whole setup on senior editor Ben Crockett's 1994 FZJ80. We'll be doing a full feature on the bumper in the May/June issue. It's a great setup--stoked to have it!
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David and Ben,

Thank you for getting the photo of the bumper in the new issue! We are getting calls from people seeing it and orders as well.

Next production run is coming real soon; get your order in if you would like to have one of them!

Mark
 
Just ordered mine.
 
LT,
I have my bumper all painted up and ready to go on this weekend. I will post up some pictures to this thread when I get it on. My bumper is a medium gray color with a Warn XD9000 mounted up.

I LOVE this bumper. It fits perfect on the truck and really improves the look. Thanks for keeping me up to speed while you were making it. I will highly recommend your stuff to anybody.
 
I got my MT bumper installed yesterday

I got my MT bumper installed yesterday after painting it up over the last week. I decided to paint it so I could effectively touch it up if need be and it would match my powder coated wheels.

Anyway, here is how it turned out. I have ordered a Viking synthetic winch line (100' of 5/16") and an Viking aluminum fairlead. I did this for any weight savings I might get along with the fact the roller fairlead with this bumper sticks out way too low and far.

Last, I did mess around with skinning the bumper a little bit with aluminum diamond plate. I can get it to work with this piece I made and by drilling the aluminum and bolting on some steel tabs that I can weld to the tube so that these aluminum plates can be taken on and off. With the PIAA lights, the cut out in the aluminum would be too big causing thin weak points at the top and bottom. If you did not have the PIAA lights you could do this, or what I might do is install these aluminum plates solid over the PIAA's and attach them with wing nuts so I could remove them if I want to use them. I was thinking it might protect them while wheeling during the day if I dipped my front down in some Southeastern mud or if a rock bounced up from the road. Then, at night, if I needed them, it would be as simple as removing three wing nuts on each side and there they are. It also would conceal them a bit from prying eyes.

Anyway, this bumper is a solid product and is the best looking option I have seen for an 80 series front bumper for a bolt-on application. I have the sliders as well and will put them on as soon as I get my Linex rockers done in the next week. Thanks to L.T. and Metal Tech for a great product.
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