Master list of JDM importers to Canada (2 Viewers)

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sorry mate... totally misunderstood.
 
canyon creek stock of JDM's

went down to canyon creek on the weekend to try and steal a glance at what trucks they have...

www.careze.com is the website that the general manage gave me to have a look at.....
 
yeah i got it to work..... what do you think of the list of trucks... ??
 
hill said:
went down to canyon creek on the weekend to try and steal a glance at what trucks they have...

www.careze.com is the website that the general manage gave me to have a look at.....

When I looked at these units,I could not figure out on how some of these trucks can honestly get through OOP'S. :doh:
 
yeah i wasnt super impressed either...
 
so i had a chat with Toyota Canada just now to find out their feelings on what i perceive as a conflict of interest.

i mentioned they put a stop on all parts that are not on the NA EPC last year
-- they agreed this was the case.

i mentioned this seemed to show non-support for the JDM units coming in from Japan.
--no comment

i mentioned there are at least 7 dealerships selling JDM units in western Canada and how does Toyota Canada feel about this issue since this seems to be in conflict with their stand on JDM imports.
--no comment.

i asked how they feel about their franchises selling units that even they can not get parts for.
--no comment.

i asked them how they feel about the customers of these dealerships needing parts that they can not get.
--the customer should do their research before buying these units. Toyota Canada does not stand behind these units.

i suggested that maybe Toyota Canada should insist on their dealers warning the customers of this fact.
--it is the customers responsibility to do their research.

This was a conversation with Nathan at Toyota Canada's head office.

I found the results to be interesting to say the least.

Once again a customer should do their research.

cheers
 
crushers said:
so i had a chat with Toyota Canada just now to find out their feelings on what i perceive as a conflict of interest.

i mentioned they put a stop on all parts that are not on the NA EPC last year
-- they agreed this was the case.

i mentioned this seemed to show non-support for the JDM units coming in from Japan.
--no comment

i mentioned there are at least 7 dealerships selling JDM units in western Canada and how does Toyota Canada feel about this issue since this seems to be in conflict with their stand on JDM imports.
--no comment.

i asked how they feel about their franchises selling units that even they can not get parts for.
--no comment.

i asked them how they feel about the customers of these dealerships needing parts that they can not get.
--the customer should do their research before buying these units. Toyota Canada does not stand behind these units.

i suggested that maybe Toyota Canada should insist on their dealers warning the customers of this fact.
--it is the customers responsibility to do their research.

This was a conversation with Nathan at Toyota Canada's head office.

I found the results to be interesting to say the least.

Once again a customer should do their research.

cheers

Interesting conversation Wayne,
I wondered where Toyota Canada would sit on this issue.

Funny, Toyota Canada will not bring in the real land crusiers that we want. Nor will they support the people that are so dedicated to Toyota that they bring their own in.

Cheers,
Nick
 
Nathan IS Toyota Canada's view.

Yes, it is sad that Toyota won't bring in what the select few want.
 
crushers said:
Nathan IS Toyota Canada's view.

Yes, it is sad that Toyota won't bring in what the select few want.

I can understand his views too.
I doubt Toyota wants to bring in trucks with price tags $70K+.
I for one would want it, but could never afford it.
I doubt they would sell many new trucks off the lot.
It would be people like you and me that wants them 5 years down the road.

Cheers,
Nick
 
Hawke said:
I've got a bit of a problem with Toyota dealerships bringing in JDM vehicles for sale. I asked a salesman at our dealership if he thought it was rather unsual for the dealership to be selling what is, in essense, a grey market vehicle. His response was a blank stare. When I asked about parts and service he said it would be no problem -- of course he's a salesman who will tell you anything to make the sale (some sales people anyway).


Lots of the parts will not be a problem.
There is a lot of overlap on the Land Cruisers with the models sold in Canada.

There is just some specific parts to the imports that are harder to get.
Like 24v starters for instance. :) Not that I would know anything about that :D

Cheers,
Nick
 
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crushers said:
so i had a chat with Toyota Canada just now to find out their feelings on what i perceive as a conflict of interest.

i mentioned they put a stop on all parts that are not on the NA EPC last year
-- they agreed this was the case.

i mentioned this seemed to show non-support for the JDM units coming in from Japan.
--no comment

i mentioned there are at least 7 dealerships selling JDM units in western Canada and how does Toyota Canada feel about this issue since this seems to be in conflict with their stand on JDM imports.
--no comment.

i asked how they feel about their franchises selling units that even they can not get parts for.
--no comment.

i asked them how they feel about the customers of these dealerships needing parts that they can not get.
--the customer should do their research before buying these units. Toyota Canada does not stand behind these units.

i suggested that maybe Toyota Canada should insist on their dealers warning the customers of this fact.
--it is the customers responsibility to do their research.

This was a conversation with Nathan at Toyota Canada's head office.

I found the results to be interesting to say the least.

Once again a customer should do their research.

cheers


From what I understand Toyota is at capacity around the world for toyotas and parts (all the stuff that goes with that). I have also heard that Toyota Corp. started enforcing what parts are sold where because of the cpacity issue around the world, also that there will be no new model introductions within a country unless it comes from top (again capacity issues).

I would have to think that there is some issues from Toyota Canada and the dealer, and the dealers are just trying to sell Toyotas, and Toyota Canada is trying to sort it out without making a lot of noise.

Do you think any of this has to do with the fact they are opening some new manufacturing in Canada, maybe.

Well that is just my 2 cents.

Oh BTW so where are all the JDM parts companies??? I know that G&S were one, maybe 4wheelauto, anyone else???

Michael
 
tlcruiserman said:
I know that G&S were one, Michael

I think you mean are? We've 1600sq' of used parts and stuff on the shelf from trucks that we have parted out. We can also supply new specific parts, as listed on our website, and remanufactured alternators/starters for a variety of applications.

4WheelAuto, Mustang Auto, EBI (to a limited extent) are a few that carry new and replacement items such as TRE's, belts, hoses, etc.

EDIT...and of course lets not forget about Marv and SOR.

hth's

gb
 
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Is careze.com, actuly a Toyota dealer. (Canyon Creek) They are listed on the AMVIC site as a wholesale dealer (not to sell to the public) with an Alberta numbered company.
 
Hawke said:
I don't see anything wrong with the dealers selling JDMs except the hypocrisy involved.
i have no problem with anyone selling JDM imports, i DO have a problem if the importer does not warn the customer of:
possible shortcomings in design of the unit sold
possible problems getting parts
possible problems of registering a unit
sold as is / where is without telling the customer straight up what is wrong with the unit
 
I agree. If you bought a used Chevy from a Toyota dealership you wouldn't really expect the dealership to back it. But...when you buy a Toyota vehicle from a Toyota dealership...I for one would expect, without having to ask, that they would back it. Just seems to make sense.

Wes

Hawke said:
I think you're right. People buying from a Toyota dealership are going to expect the dealer to back the truck. The buyer will be some pissed when they find out there's no support from the dealer.
 
CanSurf said:
I agree. If you bought a used Chevy from a Toyota dealership you wouldn't really expect the dealership to back it. But...when you buy a Toyota vehicle from a Toyota dealership...I for one would expect, without having to ask, that they would back it. Just seems to make sense.

I think we all need to have a reality check here...

There is no obligation, implied or otherwise, for a dealership to do anymore than sell you a vehicle for a profit. Any warranty is usually with the manufacturer or some other underwriter, and warranty work is yet another profit opportunity for the dealership. If you bought a used vehicle from your neighbour, would you expect him to manufacture parts for you for the next 20 years? Why would you expect this of a dealer, when you know full well it's a grey market vehicle that was never sold here. The RHD should be a dead giveaway to any dummy off the street to be wary.

There's nothing that indentures any seller to any buyer beyond the the seller honestly representing thier wares.

Toyota Canada has been dead to me for a very long time. They stopped supporting Cruisers in 1989, and 'good' cruisers since 1987 with the last BJ70. That's 19 years of absence from this market place. Frankly, it's hardly worth my saliva to spit in their general direction. Screw them, and their fj loosers.

And even more frankly, if a part goes bad on my JDM RHD BJ74, a Toyota dealership is the LAST place I would think to look for a part. I would sooner get Dave to put a part on the slow boat from China. Indeed, I've done exactly that, but it was from Japan, not China.

When I got into JDM Cruisers, it was with my eye's wide open... I already had a lot of Cruiser parts, I had spares of all the major mechanicals, I know I could do all my own work, I ensured that the mechanicals of my JDM Cruiser in question shared parts with my collection of spares, and for what was unique, I knew that a few specialty vendors already could source the parts, which they have. And as a result, my JDM experience has been overwhelmingly positive. I got Dave and G&S to source me a new vacuum solenoid, I was able to measure the 12H-T clutch against a spare one from a 2H and ordered the correct one from the local dealer (OK, so I did buy a part from Toyota), I knew the guys that can rebuild a 24V starter like new, etc. etc. The dealership couldn't help me with any of this.

As a fifth or sixth vehicle in the fleet, a JDM is a great toy. If the law cracks down on our RHD's, no big deal, I'll just trailer it to the trail. As my only vechile, and my only way to get to work on Monday.... eh... maybe not. I can afford to park this truck for 6 months while a unique part is shipped from Japan. Is this shortcoming and risk something that ANY of the JDM vendors are telling thier customers? What's the wait on a replacent input shaft for a R151 tranny? for your HDJ81? right....

If you think of these JDM's as toys, and not transportation, then a lot of these issues are kind of trivial. If you rely on a JDM as your transportation or lively hood and don't have a back-up plan, then shame on you.

Peter Straub
 
Behemoth60 said:
If you think of these JDM's as toys, and not transportation, then a lot of these issues are kind of trivial. If you rely on a JDM as your transportation or lively hood and don't have a back-up plan, then shame on you. Peter Straub

Then I guess shame on me, as I've had my BJ74 as a DD for coming up to two years now. But then, I guess I have a few items on the shelf :D. I stand by the statement that getting parts for JDMs will be no more difficult then getting parts for older Cdn spec landcruisers in a few short years, as Toyota is already discontinuing parts. In fact, I believe the JDM scene has done and will continue to do more for the LandCruiser scene in Canada then any FJ resurrection can ever hope to do.

I think the aftermarket will contine to grow for these trucks. The older ones really are Mr Potatoehead in many respects with items that will cross or can be made to work. Many of the parts for stuff like R151 is Ens available (though with a small wait).

All of that said, I think your words of caution are sage.

gb
 
I don't feel any Toyota dealership is under any obligation to "back up" a 16 year old vehicle they sell, if it is sold as is. Whether a Toyota, or any other.

The market is buyer-beware when it comes to used vehicles. Most of us act ethically... but if you end up buying a 16 year old basket case, from a private seller or dealer sold as is, that's your own problem.
 

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