Makin' Brake Lines

[Vae Victus]

No current progress. This will come later in the build when I get frame blasted and painted. About to do the wheels and axles, so frame won't be far behind.

Body will be last.

 

[scrapdaddy]

Here's some of mine, done with the Mastercool tool. I used a SS gravel guard on all my lines, brake and fuel. It helps protect from rocks, etc.

 

[SSCR]

Scrapdaddy, that looks sweet! Easily bent lines that are not brittle with the protection of SS, I like it. I'm stealing that idea, thanks.

 

[scrapdaddy]

SSCR,

Here's the link. http://www.getdiscbrakes.com/tube-bending-supplies/gravel-guard-spring-wrap.

I have it on one of my Military trucks and thought why not the 55.

 

[Vae Victus]

Here's some of mine, done with the Mastercool tool. I used a SS gravel guard on all my lines, brake and fuel. It helps protect from rocks, etc.

Dude, more pics. That's very nice looking. Where'd you get your fittings?

 

[SSCR]

Scrappydaddy, where did you get those nice line holders? The black double line holder in the top right corner of the pic you posted?

 

[Vae Victus]

Cheaper gravel guard version at Summit: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rsd-ggs38s-20/overview/

 

[scrapdaddy]

I got those clamps at Summit, also. http://www.summitracing.com/search?...rtOrder=Ascending&keyword=made for you clamps

Wish I knew they had the gravel guard.

Brake line fittings came from FedHill

 

[SSCR]

Cool thanks!

 

[SSCR]

On a side note, I'm starting to make my lines and replacing the hoses, do you guys recommend putting any kind of sealer on the threads of both the hard line and hoses? I assume they should seal themselves but wanted to know before installing. Thanks!

 

[lostmarbles]

On a side note, I'm starting to make my lines and replacing the hoses, do you guys recommend putting any kind of sealer on the threads of both the hard line and hoses? I assume they should seal themselves but wanted to know before installing. Thanks!

No liquid sealer, thread seal tape, or suchlike should ever be used in the OEM set-up AFAIK.

That's the case on my 1979 anyway.

The seals are all "flare-to-seat" and "copper-washer" as I recall.

 

[SSCR]

Cool thanks !

 

[SSCR]

First line made! Haven't tighten it down yet. What ya think? Thanks to all, specially Coolerman for his 101.

 

[scrapdaddy]

Lostmarbles,

Could you please explain the copper washer thing. I was told I didn't need them and I read you do? It's been so long since I've made Toyota brake lines, I want it right, before going on to other things.

Thanks,

Ron

 

[scrapdaddy]

SSCR,

You're off to a good start. Those bends get to be tricky.

 

[SSCR]

Thanks Scrapdaddy, I do have a copper "crunch" washers on back line but not my front???? Looks like my front was changed out but not my rear. I'll have to examine both hose lines closely to see.

 

[lostmarbles]

Lostmarbles,

Could you please explain the copper washer thing. I was told I didn't need them and I read you do? It's been so long since I've made Toyota brake lines, I want it right, before going on to other things.

Thanks,

Ron

Hi Ron

Here's where two copper washers are on my master:

(For the residual valve chambers)

And there's another two where the flexible lines meet the swivel hubs:


Maybe this illustration better shows where the last two are located:


As you can see, I have drums all around. But surely they must use a similar copper washer there where the flexible meets the disc calliper if you've got discs up front?

Right at the moment I can't think of where there are any more copper washers but my mind's a bit fogged up... LOL.

Edit: My mind's working better today .... At one end of every flexible brake hose on my 1979 a copper sealing washer is used. So that means there are two more in these locations (where my front and rear flexible hoses attach to the fittings on my diff casings):

 

[scrapdaddy]

Thank you,

I'm useing FJ60 axles and have elimitated the backing plates. Flex line screws right into caliper, I believe no copper washer.

On my master cylinder, I don't have the pressure vaule at the cylinder, so no washers there, either.

I think mine setup is alright, if not please set me straight.

 

[JohnnyC]

Banjo fittings have the washers if I remember correctly

 

[Rainman]

I've used Fedhill's flare tool on my '32 Ford build and I've never seen anything do the double flare as easily or as well as this. I'm going to have to redo some of Custom Tube's (bent wrong) lines to finish my FJ40 project. It's rather steep and just looked and found they're out of stock but just use this as a bench standard to compare with.
http://store.fedhillusa.com/007bbrakelineflaringtool.aspx