I have an advanced adapters P/S conversion kit installed on my FJ40. I need a drop pitman arm due to a 3" lift. Does anyone know if a Jeep Wagoneer pitman arm has the right taper for a CJ tie rod end? I'm also looking for other suitable pitman arms that are 6.5" long with a 2-3" drop.
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Most of the dropped Pittman arms I've seen end up shorter. Scout II arms are ridiculously long, and I have read about them being bent to give drop without the loss of length.
You shouldn`t need a dropped pitman arm for that amount of lift. The wagoneer/ j20 pitman arm is pretty much flat and almost the same as what came with your kit. If you still think you need one you can check Cruiser Outfitters Cruiser Outfitters to see what he has for dropped pitman arms, he can taper them for pretty much any tie rod end. All the dropped ones he has are 5 1/2 inches long. I believe Marks Offroad sells them as well.
The longest flat arm I could find was a Borgeson 700 series that was 7" CTC.
This is a bendable arm but I chose to leave it flat as it put the end closer to the rod connecting both wheels. My PS box was mounted as high as I could get it with a custom mount I made. Maybe this picture will give you a better idea of the parts relationship with an OME 2" to 2 1/2" lift installed.
This is a bendable arm but I chose to leave it flat as it put the end closer to the rod connecting both wheels. My PS box was mounted as high as I could get it with a custom mount I made. Maybe this picture will give you a better idea of the parts relationship with an OME 2" to 2 1/2" lift installed.
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Most forums say that the Waggy arm has a taper that matches some Chevy TREs.
Yes thats right. It matches the "chevy 1 ton" es2235 tre taper but needs to be opened up to a bigger taper for the es2026 drag link ends. I'm using an es2026r drag link end instead of a tie rod end because they are actually built for a drag link and have a greater operating angle tolerance. I dont think a cj tre will work with this pitman arm either.
Just looking at your picture, Id say you can run it the way it is with no problems. You really dont have to worry about dropped pitman arms until you get into the 4" + lift range. Most stock 4×4 pickups are running a way more extreme angle than that on the drag link.
FYI, Scout II pitman arms are about 10.25" C-C with a 2" Drop.
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I'm looking for a 6.5" center to center with a 2-3" drop. I was hoping for something out of the box to accept a CJ taper, but it doesn't sound like I'll be that lucky.
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The longest flat arm I could find was a Borgeson 700 series that was 7" CTC.
This is a bendable arm but I chose to leave it flat as it put the end closer to the rod connecting both wheels. My PS box was mounted as high as I could get it with a custom mount I made. Maybe this picture will give you a better idea of the parts relationship with an OME 2" to 2 1/2" lift installed.
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Is it possible to bend a pitman arm without heating it?
I think most factory pitman arms are heat treated/hardened after they are bent. This arm has not been heat treated/hardened so it will bend. However, because of the thickness it will be very difficult to bend without heat. After it is bent it probably should be heat treated/hardened to prevent further bending from occurring.
I left mine straight and figured that the rods would bend before the arm bent.