lift or lockers?
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Lift and sliders are the first things to do. You can wheel without lockers and gears
Sliders and Lift should be first... but Lockers are really nice and can keep you from causing damage if wheeled right.
What kind of lockers are you talking about?
What kind of lockers are you talking about?
this brings to mind my situation....my 
uses our 92' as DD and does not want it lifted. I had the Old Man Emu coils and nitro shocks put on and I believe I am about an 1" above stock height...? I don't do much "wheeling" mainly to and from hike trails/hunting. I like the look of a lifted truck but am I missing out by it not being lifted?
uses our 92' as DD and does not want it lifted. I had the Old Man Emu coils and nitro shocks put on and I believe I am about an 1" above stock height...? I don't do much "wheeling" mainly to and from hike trails/hunting. I like the look of a lifted truck but am I missing out by it not being lifted?
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this brings to mind my situation....my
You should write your own thread instead of hijacking, but basically a Lift gets components further from the ground, allows for greater articulation, and allows for larger tires by creating space between the axles and frame. Whether or not you are missing something depends on... are you missing something?
Original poster - How about lockers and sliders? This will allow you to get into and out of a lot a trouble without a lot of
. Depends what you want to do, but sliders will mitigate damage, lift will let you put on bigger tires to get in more trouble, lockers will get you out of trouble ( in theory).
Sorry did not mean to Hi-jack. Still a little knew to posting so still uncertain of "etiquette". Thought a natural progression of conversation was what advantage does a lift really bring. My bad.
Toyota spent a lot of time and money designing the suspension. Aftermarket kits typically limit themselves to certain constraints, like original mounting points, to keep costs down and for ease of installation. This means that your steering angles, control arm angles, track bar angles, etc are usually no longer ideal after a lift. If you don't do off-roading much but just like the look, or if you don't want to spend much, I would keep to a small lift (1-1.5") and 285s. Aftermarket kits usually stiffen the spring rate also to keep it stable with the higher center of gravity, which can be good or bad for ride quality depending on your preference. The higher up a lift kit goes, the cost goes up exponentially to fix all of the angles (or at least it should go up if it addresses everything).
Tires should come before everything, assuming PM is already done.
Hard to tell..
I did the Locker, then lift, then sliders then .. bumper winch and all other money sucking crap!
I did it in that order because I found a deal on locker first.. then lift.. etc.. 
But If waiting for the right price/discount or deal on any of your future mods is not your priority..
then I would say 1st Sliders, then locker.. And if you still can't get to where you want.. then a lift! You would be really amazed where these rigs will go with a stock suspension.. And let's not get into the quirkiness of lifts with caster settings, stinkbug, higher COG brake lines.... etc...
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BTW: You probably don't need the gears unless you are running some 37" or bigger! and in that case then I guess you'd need the lift first??
I did the Locker, then lift, then sliders then .. bumper winch and all other money sucking crap!
I did it in that order because I found a deal on locker first.. then lift.. etc.. But If waiting for the right price/discount or deal on any of your future mods is not your priority..
then I would say 1st Sliders, then locker.. And if you still can't get to where you want.. then a lift! You would be really amazed where these rigs will go with a stock suspension.. And let's not get into the quirkiness of lifts with caster settings, stinkbug, higher COG brake lines.... etc... Happy
BTW: You probably don't need the gears unless you are running some 37" or bigger! and in that case then I guess you'd need the lift first??
Lift
Tires
sliders
lockers/gears
You own one of the most capable vehicles on the planet. You can get in deep now, but you can get in deeper with lockers. But what happens when you're in too deep?
Better start another list...
Tires
sliders
lockers/gears
You own one of the most capable vehicles on the planet. You can get in deep now, but you can get in deeper with lockers. But what happens when you're in too deep?
Better start another list...
Lift its always first, then tires, then whatever comes to your mind. I have bought everything except for sliders. Just my way to stay away from big rocks
I dont know how much you have actually really offroaded the truck.
Start wheeln the truck more as it sits right now.
by doing this you can assess what you think you will actually do with the truck
Also you get to know what thee truck is capable of in stock form for yourself, not just from listening to what everyone tells you.
Everyone can tell you get this or that first, but they are not you.
You need to start wheeln it more and really think about how you are going to use the truck first before you start dropping coin
Only you can decide how you are going to use the truck and what you need to do to it to perform how you want it to.
Start wheeln the truck more as it sits right now.
by doing this you can assess what you think you will actually do with the truck
Also you get to know what thee truck is capable of in stock form for yourself, not just from listening to what everyone tells you.
Everyone can tell you get this or that first, but they are not you.
You need to start wheeln it more and really think about how you are going to use the truck first before you start dropping coin
Only you can decide how you are going to use the truck and what you need to do to it to perform how you want it to.
Beat me to it.
I have a lift, front bumper, winch (never used) and tires. I need sliders (rockers are shot). I've wheeled her hard in some nasty places, but I have yet to need a locker.
Each rig, and each driver is different. Start wheeling your 80 and decide what you need to achieve what you are after.
Each rig, and each driver is different. Start wheeling your 80 and decide what you need to achieve what you are after.
All things equal, I'd do the lift. Ride quality over stock LX springs was much improved.
Also, consider something like an Aussie locker as an economical solution for that locker.
Also, consider something like an Aussie locker as an economical solution for that locker.
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I would say sliders then Lockers then lift... These vehicles are very capable with lockers in stock form, but then again mine came with lockers so sliders and lift would be next.
I wheeled my truck from 97 through 2009 in stock form and didn't tear it up at all with the exception of scratches in the paint but I never attempted things that I do today without a second thought. With that said, I stuck it in the mud up to the wheel wells several times and almost rolled it going up a hill I shouldn't have tried without lockers.
There are reallly 5 key categories of mods:
Armor to protect the body and underside. A strong front and rear bumper and sliders will protect the body from damage from the underside. A skid plate will protect the transfer case and transmission. You can wheel without any of this but the risk to your vehicle is higher when you do.
Lift and larger tires provides clearance which means you can get over obsticles you cannot clear today. The difficulty with doing the lift first is that you may find the springs you put on your vehicle without armor are too flexible once you add armor and you'll have to change out your springs. You can put really stiff springs on up front but the ride will be harsh.
Lockers are the single biggest game changer you can make to your vehicle. Lockers will take you places a lift will not take you. With that said, as soon as you add lockers, you'll want to start going places that require armor and a higher lift.
Recovery gear - winch, straps, d-rings, high lift jack with attachments for the bumpers and sliders.
Mods to keep water out of where it shouldn't go - snorkel, extended diff breathers, extended transmission and transfer case breathers, silicon caulk for the distributor
In the final analysis, all of the above make up the optimum solution but here is the order I did mine (budget was a factor in the order):
1. Lift (IPOR 3.5 inch) and 35 inch tires
2. Skid Plate
3. Snorkel and extended diff breathers.
4. Sliders
5. Front bumper with a Warn Winch and recovery gear
6. Customer drawer system to carry all of my recovery gear
7. Lockers and gear change to 4.88
8. Rear bumper
9. Stiffer springs (Full Slee 4 inch lift) - just did this
10. More recovery gear - just did this
Everybody does it in a different order, you just have to figure out what order you'll be most comfortable with and go for it.
I am about to put my J springs up for sale here on Mud if you are interested, had them on the truck about 2.5 years.
There are reallly 5 key categories of mods:
Armor to protect the body and underside. A strong front and rear bumper and sliders will protect the body from damage from the underside. A skid plate will protect the transfer case and transmission. You can wheel without any of this but the risk to your vehicle is higher when you do.
Lift and larger tires provides clearance which means you can get over obsticles you cannot clear today. The difficulty with doing the lift first is that you may find the springs you put on your vehicle without armor are too flexible once you add armor and you'll have to change out your springs. You can put really stiff springs on up front but the ride will be harsh.
Lockers are the single biggest game changer you can make to your vehicle. Lockers will take you places a lift will not take you. With that said, as soon as you add lockers, you'll want to start going places that require armor and a higher lift.
Recovery gear - winch, straps, d-rings, high lift jack with attachments for the bumpers and sliders.
Mods to keep water out of where it shouldn't go - snorkel, extended diff breathers, extended transmission and transfer case breathers, silicon caulk for the distributor
In the final analysis, all of the above make up the optimum solution but here is the order I did mine (budget was a factor in the order):
1. Lift (IPOR 3.5 inch) and 35 inch tires
2. Skid Plate
3. Snorkel and extended diff breathers.
4. Sliders
5. Front bumper with a Warn Winch and recovery gear
6. Customer drawer system to carry all of my recovery gear
7. Lockers and gear change to 4.88
8. Rear bumper
9. Stiffer springs (Full Slee 4 inch lift) - just did this
10. More recovery gear - just did this
Everybody does it in a different order, you just have to figure out what order you'll be most comfortable with and go for it.
I am about to put my J springs up for sale here on Mud if you are interested, had them on the truck about 2.5 years.
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Can someone please explain to me why you guys all get harder/very hard springs for when lifting your trucks?
The more weight you add to the truck, the more roll you feel when going over obticals off-road or turning corners on street. Stiffer springs make the truck more stable off road and provide a better ride on the street.
You can really feel the difference.
