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[eldgenb]

Hi guys, I have a 1997 40th ann edition that i want to do a 4bta, 4l80e swap to and was wanting to find out if I would make my cruise control and factory tach work with this? Is the vehicle speed sensor in the trans or t-case of the 80? Any information would help..

 

[eldgenb]

typo"if I could make my cruise and tach work"

 

[Romer]

I have no idea what kind of swap you are talking about. could you elaborate?

 

[Cruiserhead05]

4bt is the cummins 4 cyl diesel swap....

Email profitts cruisers, they have done the swap and im sure can answer all your Q's.

 

[Beowulf]

He's talking about a Cummins 4-cyl inter-cooled turbo diseasel swap with a GM automatic tranny.

The VSC on your 80 is in the XFer case.

-B-

 

[Bearcat80]

Anything is possible with enough time, mechanical, electrical and welding skills. If you have to ask a question like this, is a diesel swap the right thing to try? (read with best big brother or dad helpful advice tone). The 1fzfe in your truck is bomb proof, why swap out for a rattly truck motor? The fuel savings will never ever cover the cost of the new motor alone. If you need more power get a supercharger. If you need more fuel economy, get a different rig. if you are doing it for the feel good of running veggie oil, buy a mercedes 190D. If you are doing it because it can be done and you are driven to do it, I'll shut up. Seriously, I've dreamed of a nice torquey oil burner in my 80 since I bought it. Check out the new V-6 international is putting in their CF city trucks. It would fit nice, has 200 horse, and you only have to wait until one is totaled to pick up the whole pakge including the allison tranny and harnesses.

 

[eldgenb]

well the main reason I am doing it is because with 180k on my rig now and having done half a dozen V8 conversions it presents a new challenge that could pay off in the future. I can do the conversion myself for around 5k considering what is already done to my cruiser. I am just spoiled and don't want to lose the cruise control for speeding ticket reasons.

 

[honk]

well the main reason I am doing it is because with 180k on my rig now and having done half a dozen V8 conversions it presents a new challenge that could pay off in the future. I can do the conversion myself for around 5k considering what is already done to my cruiser. I am just spoiled and don't want to lose the cruise control for speeding ticket reasons.

LOL! Speeding tickets will be the least of your concerns with a 4BT.

 

[Bearcat80]

Only 180 k? That's just broken in. Put in a new head gasket for grins and giggles and she'll go another 180k, no questions asked.

 

[Arya Ebrahimi]

I really don't understand the 1FZFE Cult mentality around here.

Yes, they are good motors that last a long time and have decent power. But I really don't get why people try to persuade everyone out of doing a swap. The more people that do swaps, the more documentation and easier it will be in 5-10 years when these trucks are really starting to show their age.

Ary

 

[DTAYLOR]

Ary,

I think the idea is that there are quite a few posts that indicate some think the 1FZFE to be problematic either because of head gasket issues, or lack of V-8 type power.

Like you, I am all for knowing as much as I can about conversions. I just think there are too many who seem to want to give up on the 1FZFE without understanding it's true capability and reliability.

Besides, there are a lot of guys who will get in way over their head on a conversion.

 

[CreeperSleeper]

FWIW I know that Mark at MetalTech has been researching this swap for an 80. I would shoot him an e-mail. (He's an advertiser here)

 

[eldgenb]

I do know that the 4.5L is a good dependable engine however no one can deny that it is signifigantly underpowered for the size and weight of the 80 or for that matter any inline 6 land cruiser. I look at it as a cost benefit plan. I can spend 3k for a supercharger, 1k to have the engine re-sealed and the head gasket done. Or I can have an 80 that more than doubles my current fuel economy, with a powertrain that will out last my current setup (in its current condition) and have the sound of the cummins inside.. No more elecrical sensors or cats to worry about and I can submarine it wiyhout thinking about boy I hope my distributor is sealed well enough. IMO there is a reason that the rest of the world has adopted the diesel so I say embrace it!!

 

[Grease Cruiser]

LOL! Speeding tickets will be the least of your concerns with a 4BT.

What does that mean? A 4BT 80 will easily do 85mph.

To answer your original question of using your tach and cruise control: Aftermarket my friend. It has been done.

Give Proffitts Cruisers a call, we have done several 4BT 80 conversions, including one for myself. 1-877-PROFFITT