Introduction - ‘92 Bandeirante OJ50LV-B

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92Bandy

92Bandy

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Hi everyone. I wanted to introduce myself. I recently purchased this 1992 Bandeirante OJ50LV-B. This Bandy has the Mercedes OM364 Diesel engine with a 5-speed transmission. I’m new to Land Cruiser ownership so the learning curve is steep but excited for the journey. This forum has been a wealth of knowledge during my research and I look forward to being part of this great community!

Rob

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Welcome!
Very interesting truck we would love to hear the backstory on this one.
Interesting mirror on mirror action. Sliding rear windows?
 
sterling said:
Welcome!
Very interesting truck we would love to hear the backstory on this one.
Interesting mirror on mirror action. Sliding rear windows?
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sterling said:
Welcome!
Very interesting truck we would love to hear the backstory on this one.
Interesting mirror on mirror action. Sliding rear windows?
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Just received it at the end of last week so still going over things. The cozy mirrors on the right side are as delivered. Lower mirror will definitely be removed.
Correct, there are two windows on the sides, which slide towards each other…..pretty cool.
 
AWESOME!

I own a small 1989er version with the OM314 and I'm still looking for EXACTLY your modell. The long frame, OM364 AND 5-speed-transmission is very hard to get (and usually the transmission is not original, because aFAIK this combination was only build in 1993 or 1994, just before the change from the Mercedes engines to the Toyota engines).

I hope it is reliable as it looks, the engine should be bullet proof. It's the Mercedes 300er series and the OM314 is already great and the OM364 is the better successor. Just change the oil regular (I do it every 5000km) and the fuel filters once in a time and don't touch the injection pump if it'S working fine ;)
It's possible (and very common in BR) to install a turbo on those engines and if you don't increase the amount of diesel too much, it will be reliable as well. The engine was designed for little trucks and the load he has to carry in a Band is pretty little.
The OM364 doesn't like high rpm, see the 2800 to 3000 min-1 as a real limit. My OM314 can carry a little bit more, due to the lower stroke, but only shortly in transient conditions. With the 5-speed this is less of an issue then on my 4-speed. It's not a racecar anyhow.

All up to and incl. the clutch is MB, the transmissions are Toyota. There are little differences from the truck to the Toyota engine (engine mounts), but 95% of the parts should fit.

Regular maint. on the axles and transmission (grease and oil changes) needs to be done like on any other old offroader.

Pls have a close look, how the rear swing arm for the spare tire is mounted, the thin sheets of the cabin will not support the wheight of the tire and canister. There should be a aux frame or something like that inside.

Congrets and I'm jealous for sure, also I live down here and looking all the time.

Here is a link with the Parts Cat.: CATÁLOGO DE PEÇAS TOYOTA BANDEIRANTE PARTE 1 - https://manuaisdoproprietario.blogspot.com/2019/05/catalogo-de-pecas-toyota-bandeirante.html
 

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PEOPLES said:
AWESOME!

I own a small 1989er version with the OM314 and I'm still looking for EXACTLY your modell. The long frame, OM364 AND 5-speed-transmission is very hard to get (and usually the transmission is not original, because aFAIK this combination was only build in 1993 or 1994, just before the change from the Mercedes engines to the Toyota engines).

I hope it is reliable as it looks, the engine should be bullet proof. It's the Mercedes 300er series and the OM314 is already great and the OM364 is the better successor. Just change the oil regular (I do it every 5000km) and the fuel filters once in a time and don't touch the injection pump if it'S working fine ;)
It's possible (and very common in BR) to install a turbo on those engines and if you don't increase the amount of diesel too much, it will be reliable as well. The engine was designed for little trucks and the load he has to carry in a Band is pretty little.
The OM364 doesn't like high rpm, see the 2800 to 3000 min-1 as a real limit. My OM314 can carry a little bit more, due to the lower stroke, but only shortly in transient conditions. With the 5-speed this is less of an issue then on my 4-speed. It's not a racecar anyhow.

All up to and incl. the clutch is MB, the transmissions are Toyota. There are little differences from the truck to the Toyota engine (engine mounts), but 95% of the parts should fit.

Regular maint. on the axles and transmission (grease and oil changes) needs to be done like on any other old offroader.

Pls have a close look, how the rear swing arm for the spare tire is mounted, the thin sheets of the cabin will not support the wheight of the tire and canister. There should be a aux frame or something like that inside.

Congrets and I'm jealous for sure, also I live down here and looking all the time.

Here is a link with the Parts Cat.: CATÁLOGO DE PEÇAS TOYOTA BANDEIRANTE PARTE 1 - https://manuaisdoproprietario.blogspot.com/2019/05/catalogo-de-pecas-toyota-bandeirante.html
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Hi @PEOPLES . Thank you the information! I’ll definitely take a look at the rear swing arm mounting and post a photo for your review/advice.
There are a couple fuel leaks I need to sort out but the engine seems to run well. Clutch engagement is good and transmission shifts smoothly.
You were reading my mind about adding a turbo. I’ve located a kit, which may find it’s way onto the engine this winter :cool:.
 
onemanarmy said:
So it has a H55F trans? What T case? They look to be Toyota axles?

Very cool truck!
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These are questions I have also :). @PEOPLES would be best to help with info. H55F trans makes sense since I doubt Toyota would have multiple 5-speed transmissions for basically the same vehicle. I’m not sure about the transfer case but the case is steel not aluminum. It was mentioned to me the OJ50LV-B uses the same suspension and drivetrain as the FJ45. This truck does have the heavy duty rear hubs. This information will be a great help for when I need to do maintenance.
 
92Bandy said:
I’ve located a kit, which may find it’s way onto the engine this winter
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No probs with the engine itself.

You can also adjust the amount of Diesel by yourself, but do it in little steps. A EGT-gage will help to find issues and to keep the stress to the engine low. Without EGT-Gage I would stay on the safe side and that means less power.
It will not be a huge difference like on a gasoline engine, but you gain some midrange power which makes it more comfortable to drive.

A Intercooler would make sense, but not mandatory at the beginning. Use a 2,5" downpipe, 2" is too small and will result in low boost pressure and high EGT. Exhaust system also in 2.5" or 3".

I run mine on 1bar of boost at around 650°C EGT. No probs so far. Just be carefull: the torque will increase and going full throttle in the reduced gears means a LOT of torque vor the diffs and axles, etc.
Even more then on the trucks using the same engine.

On mine (and yours should be the same):
1. gear: 4.85 : 1
Reduction: 1.95 : 1
Diff: 3.7 : 1
-> 4.84 * 1.95 * 3.7 -> Faktor 35
 
92Bandy said:
Hi @PEOPLES . Thank you the information! I’ll definitely take a look at the rear swing arm mounting and post a photo for your review/advice.
There are a couple fuel leaks I need to sort out but the engine seems to run well. Clutch engagement is good and transmission shifts smoothly.
You were reading my mind about adding a turbo. I’ve located a kit, which may find it’s way onto the engine this winter :cool:.
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@PEOPLES - here’s a photo. What do ya think? Not sure why they didn’t use a large washer on the lower right bolt?

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92Bandy said:
These are questions I have also
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I can't answer all ypur quotes, because I only know the Bandeirantes, not the normal versions.
What is for sure: Everything was build in Brazil, also the engine.

The 4 to 5 speed "conversion" takes place with a "Spacer", the transmission get a little bit "longer". But basecally it's a "tuned" 4 speed.

Transfercase I need to check on mine, but I guess its steel. The reduction part is added on.

The axles should be the same, like the FJ40, but not 100% sure. There is a full floating and a "half floating" version (which can be converted to full float)

Disc brakes had been introduce in the mid 90s but are different to those in the normal OJ40s. It's a one piston floating caliper. Pretty simple but works.

92Bandy said:
What do ya think? Not sure why they didn’t use a large washer on the lower right bolt?
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I need to be carefull with such words, but I'm a german living in Brazil and sometimes they drive me nuts with the way they think it would be a good job. Not everybody is like that, but I got used to it and check exactly those things.
I have there already little cracks but (unlike yours) the wheight at mine is on the rear bumper, not on the structure.

I would not load the fuel in that config and be carefull with offroad. Try to make a metal part which fits inside (both side of the arm) and transmit the wheight to the bottom of the cabin.
 
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