I looked at the new 200 today.
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Actually, it was eight. He posted five times about nothing, and you posted three times about nothing. And then Cruiserdan posted once about nothing. He should know better than that. And then others posted some about nothing, and then Twsterchaser or whatever posted once about absolutely nothing. Basically, it was a whole thread about absolutely nothing. In 200's "tech."
Did that fall under YOUR definition of tech ??
Why would you bring up something as trivial as my MB?? I don't brag, I merely speak of past experiences and fact, which I can back up.
Don't put me down just because you have an fjc..
Let's be honest, there isn't a whole lot of genuine tech being discussed, now is there?
Bulging turn signal lens is a valid concern. If they pertrude too far out of the front fender area they could be prone to being broken easily.
That's sweet how you defend shotts !!
Main Entry: tech·ni·cal
Function: adjective
Pronunciation: 'tek-ni-k&l</I>
Etymology: Greek </I>technikos of art, skillful, from </I>techne art, craft, skill; akin to Greek </I>tektOn builder, carpenter, Latin </I>texere to weave, Sanskrit </I>taksati he fashions</I>
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Ut oh, the post patrol !!
My post was tech, in that I stated that dt could have saved some money by buying a Sienna...Look at #2 above !!
Main Entry: tech·ni·cal
Function: adjective
Pronunciation: 'tek-ni-k&l</I>
Etymology: Greek </I>technikos of art, skillful, from </I>techne art, craft, skill; akin to Greek </I>tektOn builder, carpenter, Latin </I>texere to weave, Sanskrit </I>taksati he fashions</I>
1 a : having special and usually practical knowledge especially of a mechanical or scientific subject <a technical consultant</I>></I> </I>b : marked by or characteristic of specialization <technical language</I>></I> </I>
2 a : of or relating to a particular subject</I> </I>b : of or relating to a practical subject organized on scientific principles <a technical school</I>></I> </I>c :TECHNOLOGICAL </I>1</I> </I>
3 a : based on or marked by a strict or legal interpretation</I> </I>b : LEGAL </I>6</I> </I>
4 : of or relating to technique</I> </I>
5 : of, relating to, or produced by ordinary commercial processes without being subjected to special purification <technical sulfuric acid</I>></I> </I>
6 : relating to or caused by the functioning of the market as a discrete mechanism not influenced by macroeconomic factors <technical rally</I>> <technical analysis</I>></I>
- tech·ni·cal·ly/-k(&-)le/ adverb
Ut oh, the post patrol !!
My post was tech, in that I stated that dt could have saved some money by buying a Sienna...Look at #2 above !!
That's great. My post was really directed toward 007FJC because he was admonishing others to post only "helpful" "tech" in this section. If you want me to discuss your posts more, and how valuable I think that they are, I will be glad to.
Oh, I knew to whom you were referring. I just wanted to clarify what my post was in reference to !! The relation of money saved by buying a Sienna AWD versus the purchase price of a new LC !!
Post #186 was a legitimate tech question that I have yet to see an answer...
Oh, I knew to whom you were referring. I just wanted to clarify what my post was in reference to !! The relation of money saved by buying a Sienna AWD versus the purchase price of a new LC !!
Post #186 was a legitimate tech question that I have yet to see an answer...
Really? You've owned Land Cruisers for 25 years and you cannot figure out how to take the seats out of the 200 series?
i just tried to look up the interior of the seq that was posted i thought here but could not find it. i do like the pics of the new lc inter but i wish a big color choice was avalable even black!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why no black interior i dont know
The 200's 3rd row seats are not designed to be "easily" removed like the ones in the 80 or 100 series. So, removal of the 80's and or 100's is irrelevant to those in the 200. If you would, please run out and look at your 200 and tell me what you think !! I have yet to purchase a 200 and I am interested in the removal process !!
The 200's 3rd row seats are not designed to be "easily" removed like the ones in the 80 or 100 series. So, removal of the 80's and or 100's is irrelevant to those in the 200. If you would, please run out and look at your 200 and tell me what you think !! I have yet to purchase a 200 and I am interested in the removal process !!
I am aware. They are as "permanent" as the second-row seating on the 80-series. I'm sure even a stubborn dickhead like you can figure out how to get them out after giving it the old college try.
All you need are a ratchet and a 14mm socket and the 2nd row seats are history!
My point exactly. This guy is just being difficult for no reason. If he were at least funny, I could chalk that up to a reason.
Come on now, name calling is so trite !!
See, I ask a legitimate tech question and you attack me personally by calling me a "stubborn dickhead!"
How do you know it is as easy as removing the 2nd row from a 100 or 80? Have you removed the 3rd row out of a 200? Seriously, how do you know it's THAT easy ??? Have you even ever seen the 3rd row seates in the 200? Huh ??
I wouldn't know how easy the 2nd row is to remove on the 80 or 100. I have never had any reason to try to remove it !!
Nothing is ever as easy as it first appears. I learned that the last time I tried to change the hi-beam bulbs on my 100....Easy to get out, but not so easy to get back in, for some reason !! I finally took it to the dealership and for quite some time they thought the entire headlight assembly was going to have to be replaced !! After like 3 hours of trying they finally were able to get the bulb in..So, do not just assume something is going to be "easy" just by looking at it!
Roll tide !!
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Maybe, but you have to admit that you are being a dickhead about this whole 200 series, aren't you?
Late to the party, but I'll add my $0.02.
Not a 25 year LC owner, but in addition to my current LC ('04) I did own a '98, and was a big fan of the '80 series.
I saw the new 200 today in person, and unfortunately I'll have to say I was underwhelmed. I too feel that it looks too much like a Highlander, more so from the profile. From the front you can see the evolution from the 100 series. The rear leaves me cold, the bulging tailights really didn't do anything for me.
Now before I get flamed, I'll state that I have no doubt that the 200 is an incremental leap from the 100, as is usually the case when a vehicle is redesigned. The interior is impressive, and being a gadget junky, I'm sure the 200 would keep me entertained for a long time.
The $72K MSRP also was like jumping in a cold shower. If I'm going sign onto that kind of a note, I want to be totally in love with the ride. In December of '03 I paid $56K for my '04 that had a MSRP of $63K. I don't know what the wiggle room is on the new one, but it would have to be significant for me to sign on the dotted line. That is assuming that the looks begin to grow on me.
Again, I don't mean my post to be a judgement to those who have purchased one. As someone said, styling is subjective.
With all the electronics on this new one, I'd recommend an extended warranty if you're going to own it past the 36k mile mark.
At 45K miles the navigation touch screen on mine died. There was a TSB out on this specific problem. The part alone cost $5000! That's FIVE THOUSAND, and you couldn't just live with it because the failure rendered the audio and climate control inoperable. Fortunately I had purchased a Toyota Extended Warranty. In addition I've had the backup camera fail and the headunit replaced. Those repairs would have been (according to the dealer) $900 and $700 repairs respectively.
Bottom line is that I definitely got my money's worth on the $1,400 price of the warranty, and I still have 26K miles to go before the warranty expires at 100K miles.
It pains me to say this, but Toyota has been slipping from a quality perspective, and I'm a big Toyota fan having owned a product of theirs for over 20 years.
I have actually been contemplating trading in my '04. Unless the looks of the 200 grow on me, I'm resigned to either keeping my 100, or moving into something else.
:sigh:
Again, not judging, just expressing my opinion.
Not a 25 year LC owner, but in addition to my current LC ('04) I did own a '98, and was a big fan of the '80 series.
I saw the new 200 today in person, and unfortunately I'll have to say I was underwhelmed. I too feel that it looks too much like a Highlander, more so from the profile. From the front you can see the evolution from the 100 series. The rear leaves me cold, the bulging tailights really didn't do anything for me.
Now before I get flamed, I'll state that I have no doubt that the 200 is an incremental leap from the 100, as is usually the case when a vehicle is redesigned. The interior is impressive, and being a gadget junky, I'm sure the 200 would keep me entertained for a long time.
The $72K MSRP also was like jumping in a cold shower. If I'm going sign onto that kind of a note, I want to be totally in love with the ride. In December of '03 I paid $56K for my '04 that had a MSRP of $63K. I don't know what the wiggle room is on the new one, but it would have to be significant for me to sign on the dotted line. That is assuming that the looks begin to grow on me.
Again, I don't mean my post to be a judgement to those who have purchased one. As someone said, styling is subjective.
With all the electronics on this new one, I'd recommend an extended warranty if you're going to own it past the 36k mile mark.
At 45K miles the navigation touch screen on mine died. There was a TSB out on this specific problem. The part alone cost $5000! That's FIVE THOUSAND, and you couldn't just live with it because the failure rendered the audio and climate control inoperable. Fortunately I had purchased a Toyota Extended Warranty. In addition I've had the backup camera fail and the headunit replaced. Those repairs would have been (according to the dealer) $900 and $700 repairs respectively.
Bottom line is that I definitely got my money's worth on the $1,400 price of the warranty, and I still have 26K miles to go before the warranty expires at 100K miles.
It pains me to say this, but Toyota has been slipping from a quality perspective, and I'm a big Toyota fan having owned a product of theirs for over 20 years.
I have actually been contemplating trading in my '04. Unless the looks of the 200 grow on me, I'm resigned to either keeping my 100, or moving into something else.
:sigh:
Again, not judging, just expressing my opinion.
Dickhead, no. Tenacious, ABSOLUTELY !!
Interesting since I am a potential 200 buyer.
I just want to be thorough in my decision making process !!
Asking questions is fine, but, and I'll reiterate, don't flame people for their opinions until you know what their context is, and understand how much knowledge they actually have. See below.
Hmm, to me this is not a simple disagreement. Usually doesn't take me eight sentences and overdrive sarcasm to say I disagree with someone (as you did in post #50):
"I don't knwo what to say to this. Obviously you know tons more then I do. I guess I am just a soccer mom and I didn't know it.
"Because of your comments I am going to sell the LC at a loss, because the money is no object to me and go get a volvo TRUCK!
"If you want to think that, great...have fun. Enjoy the information you have in your head already, because it is obvious that you cannot take in any more information.
"Oh btw...
"Oh BTW if you are complaining about your 99 falling apart when you take it off road, then maybe you need to ask some advice from some more people on here, so you can learn how better to keep your truck together."
But I appriciate your advice. Maybe before you 'go off' on a new person who has done nothing but ask questions (although some of them are pretty newbie'ish) you should read ALL the threads where I posted and see if I am really as closed minded as you think I am.
Just some friendly advice for you...from a newbie
Maybe "defensive" is a better word.
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I sat on one the other day at an auto show.
I was not impressed. I looked at it from underneath, looks more like a Tacoma than an LC. The gas tank sits very low and it has a huge skid plate under it. Probably as good as the skid plate on the 80s tranny.
I think it's a fancy vehicle made for the Middle Eastern (not Mid Western) markets. A vehicle to take dignitaries back and forth. Kinda what the Tahoe is for US diplomats.
BTW, did you see the video on TV where Benazir Bhutto escaped from her house on a 100 series. The local TV anchor called it a J##P...
Alvaro
I was not impressed. I looked at it from underneath, looks more like a Tacoma than an LC. The gas tank sits very low and it has a huge skid plate under it. Probably as good as the skid plate on the 80s tranny.
I think it's a fancy vehicle made for the Middle Eastern (not Mid Western) markets. A vehicle to take dignitaries back and forth. Kinda what the Tahoe is for US diplomats.
BTW, did you see the video on TV where Benazir Bhutto escaped from her house on a 100 series. The local TV anchor called it a J##P...
Alvaro
hey hawks did you look at a lc or lx also i have been trying to find out what options are available on these dtt has stated his does not have hid thats a hugh price tag for a vehicle that does not have hid in this day and age i agree with you on the warranty thing my 06lx has had problmes which are not a crack against the 100 series but the actual build process engine tranny etc is all good but with more and more elecrtr gizmos comiing in you that warranty what do you think the kdds problem would cost to fix??? yicks anyone here have a gx or 4runner with that system???? I live in cherry hill nj close to philadelphia and a dealership that i go to sells lots of gx and lx units and the service guy told me they only had 3 gx with that option go out from their place. it has been out for 2 -3 years so im sure the bugs have been fixed i hope i have not had time to go to the toytota place near me (turkey stuff to do)
