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Question for those that have installed the Hamilton car play in their LC200 and retained their existing in dash screen on a 2016+. I spoke with Hamilton and discussed the doucmented lag at startup and was told they are addressing this in a future release for the streaming version. Apparently they will also offer the option to customize startup to reflect something other than the Hamilton Logo too. Apparently the streaming version uses the Android OS and the basic version uses the Linux OS....the tech said the streaming is the most modern architecture and will most likely receive the most new updates in the future. Can I get a response from those that have either of these versions (basic/streaming) and what your experience has been with performance at startup and if there is really an advantage to spending the extra money to buy the streaming version over the basic? My LC came with the rear entertainment screens, but I have removed these and this is no my use case or requirement...just wondering if it is worth the streaming version that has the Qualcomm 8-Core processor and 8GB of RAM and runs localized apps.
 
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Question for those that have installed the Hamilton car play in their LC200 and retained their existing in dash screen on a 2016+. I spoke with Hamilton and discussed the doucmented lag at startup and was told they are addressing this in a future release for the streaming version. Apparently they will also offer the option to customize startup to reflect something other than the Hamilton Logo too. Apparently the streaming version uses the Android OS and the basic version uses the Linux OS....the tech said the streaming is the most modern architecture and will most likely receive the most new updates in the future. Can I get a response from those that have either of these versions (basic/streaming) and what your experience has been with performance at startup and if there is really an advantage to spending the extra money to buy the streaming version over the basic? My LC came with the rear entertainment screens, but I have removed these and this is no my use case or requirement...just wondering if it is worth the streaming version that has the Qualcomm 8-Core processor and 8GB of RAM and runs localized apps.
I doubt you'd find anyone that's bought both versions to do an actual start-up comparison. I, personally, don't have an issue with the lag. My issue is with the infrequent, though noticeable, drops where I'll start driving and suddenly the wireless CarPlay just drops out and it's random what brings it back (unlock the phone, reboot the phone, deal with it and wait until I restart the vehicle...). Your use case will determine whether the extra cash is warranted. Do you care about adding streaming apps? As far as receiving updates...I've had mine well over a year and have never seen anything about updates. Their support forum is also woefully attended when I last looked at it. Maybe years ago they were putting out updates, but from my experience? I wouldn't count on much.
 
I doubt you'd find anyone that's bought both versions to do an actual start-up comparison. I, personally, don't have an issue with the lag. My issue is with the infrequent, though noticeable, drops where I'll start driving and suddenly the wireless CarPlay just drops out and it's random what brings it back (unlock the phone, reboot the phone, deal with it and wait until I restart the vehicle...). Your use case will determine whether the extra cash is warranted. Do you care about adding streaming apps? As far as receiving updates...I've had mine well over a year and have never seen anything about updates. Their support forum is also woefully attended when I last looked at it. Maybe years ago they were putting out updates, but from my experience? I wouldn't count on much.
I find that driving near cell towers causes mine to temporarily lose connection or drop completely.
 
I find that driving near cell towers causes mine to temporarily lose connection or drop completely.
Interesting. Mine tends to happen right away after successfully connecting and then reaching the end of my driveway. HAHAHHAA. And I can most assuredly say there's ZIPPO cell signal there. I wonder, though, if it could be a handshake issue between my home wifi and the Hamilton unit. It's very sporadic, though.
 
Question for those that have installed the Hamilton car play in their LC200 and retained their existing in dash screen on a 2016+. I spoke with Hamilton and discussed the doucmented lag at startup and was told they are addressing this in a future release for the streaming version. Apparently they will also offer the option to customize startup to reflect something other than the Hamilton Logo too. Apparently the streaming version uses the Android OS and the basic version uses the Linux OS....the tech said the streaming is the most modern architecture and will most likely receive the most new updates in the future. Can I get a response from those that have either of these versions (basic/streaming) and what your experience has been with performance at startup and if there is really an advantage to spending the extra money to buy the streaming version over the basic? My LC came with the rear entertainment screens, but I have removed these and this is no my use case or requirement...just wondering if it is worth the streaming version that has the Qualcomm 8-Core processor and 8GB of RAM and runs localized apps.

Any ETA on this? Not necessarily looking to be a guinea pig who's receiving the first batch of a new product, but I'd be in for a group buy.
 
I doubt you'd find anyone that's bought both versions to do an actual start-up comparison. I, personally, don't have an issue with the lag. My issue is with the infrequent, though noticeable, drops where I'll start driving and suddenly the wireless CarPlay just drops out and it's random what brings it back (unlock the phone, reboot the phone, deal with it and wait until I restart the vehicle...). Your use case will determine whether the extra cash is warranted. Do you care about adding streaming apps? As far as receiving updates...I've had mine well over a year and have never seen anything about updates. Their support forum is also woefully attended when I last looked at it. Maybe years ago they were putting out updates, but from my experience? I wouldn't count on much.
what is this streaming version of which you speak?
 
Interesting. Mine tends to happen right away after successfully connecting and then reaching the end of my driveway. HAHAHHAA. And I can most assuredly say there's ZIPPO cell signal there. I wonder, though, if it could be a handshake issue between my home wifi and the Hamilton unit. It's very sporadic, though.

Our has a similar issue. If I’m my the phone with earbuds (Jaba in my case) in before starting the vehicle, my Bluetooth audio will show that its playing on the screen. But there is no sound. The phone will still make calls through the vehicle but no Spotify sound. I’ve found the only fix is to unpair, then pair it again to get proper function out of the unit… I forget these steps each time.
 
This fall when the weather cools down I'm going to look into off-market firmware to get the unit working correctly. I figure it's worth a shot.
 
Allows you to broadcast streaming sites (YouTube, YouTube TV, Netflix, etc) through the module onto the center console & OEM rear entertainment screens (if equipped).
That’s pretty cool. My screen replacement unit also came with a dongle for the back of the screen for a HDMI adapter, but tbh didn’t seem like something I’d ever use
 
That’s pretty cool. My screen replacement unit also came with a dongle for the back of the screen for a HDMI adapter, but tbh didn’t seem like something I’d ever use
I asked and it, sadly, doesn't allow you to run (for example) Google Maps on front display and then Netflix on back. Since it's a "mirroring" system, it's basically single output.
 
Can I ask those that have installed the Hamilton Carplay Upgrade Kit. The instructions for the 2016+ don't say anything about a memory savor and whether settings will be lost (computer presets like windows etc) when the negative side of the battery is disconnected. I have had a few dealer changes to settings and don't want to lose these changes. Thanks!

****Installed the Hamilton and was able to disconnect the negative side of the battery, install the kit, and once reconnected verified that I have retained all of my necessary computer settings. *****
 
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I installed the non-streaming version about two weeks ago; install was pretty easy, no issues with losing settings with the battery disconnect, worked perfectly on startup. However, I have had some issues that Hamilton has been doing a good job of helping me work through. Here's what I've learned, what has happened to me, and what I would advise:

- On install, make sure you route the USB dongle somewhere convenient; you'll need it later. I wanted mine hidden but easily accessible so I put it behind the passeger side kick panel/knee pad on the center stack (which you remove for install).
- On setup, do NOT follow their adamant instructions to connect via Aux. When you make your first call via CarPlay, the person on the other end will have a massive echo. The only fix is to change the connection to bluetooth. Per the tech, they are in the process of changing their instructions to advise people to default to a BT connection vice aux. I have since done that and it solves the echo problem but adds the minor inconvenience of having to ensure that the volume is up on your phone (with a BT connection, phone output volume will impact the truck's volume). Otherwise, no issues with BT so far.
- After a few starts, I start having a problem on pretty much every other trip. On start, it would default to the Hamilton OS screen (rather than CarPlay) and a window would pop up saying "Unauthorized Product." For me, this would not resolve itself until I restarted the truck. Had this happen in downtown DC in an unfamiliar area; CarPlay came up on start then switched to "Unauthorized Product" before I got to the first red light. Had to restart at the light to get CarPlay maps back.
- Hamilton emailed me the files for a software update - they also give you a thumb drive in the box just for this purpose - and I was able to get it updated pretty easily.
- Restarted to CarPlay no problem in the driveway. However, on the first drive to dinner, it started up in CarPlay on both legs only to revert the Hamilton home screen within about a minute. I pressed the CarPlay icon to return to CarPlay, only to have it take me to the CarPlay setup screen (essentially the default setup screen where it asks if you want to setup as wired or wireless) where it sat for about 5-10 seconds before getting itself back to the CarPlay OS.
- I reached out to the techs for a fix to this today, waiting to hear back. I'm hoping a simple disconnect/reconnect will fix this.

Overall, I have nothing to compare it to in the 200. I ran a Sony XAV-4000 in my FJ62 that had pretty much flawless Apple CarPlay connectivity, and a Pioneer unit in my 100 (that I did a pretty extensive write-up on here) that never gave me any problems. I think if we want to have "native" CarPlay in the 200 we're going to have to accept some of these imperfections in units like the Hamilton and help them work through fixes. I suppose it's still better than not having it at all, but at the same time I can't have maps or calls dropping off when I really need them.

Also, when deciding between the streaming and non-streaming version (I got non-streaming), it would've been nice to better understand that the streaming version has a better chip/processor as someone else here mentioned; I probably would've opted for it just for that reason.

Hope this helps someone; I'll update here after working through the post-software update issues.
 
I installed the non-streaming version about two weeks ago; install was pretty easy, no issues with losing settings with the battery disconnect, worked perfectly on startup. However, I have had some issues that Hamilton has been doing a good job of helping me work through. Here's what I've learned, what has happened to me, and what I would advise:

- On install, make sure you route the USB dongle somewhere convenient; you'll need it later. I wanted mine hidden but easily accessible so I put it behind the passeger side kick panel/knee pad on the center stack (which you remove for install).
- On setup, do NOT follow their adamant instructions to connect via Aux. When you make your first call via CarPlay, the person on the other end will have a massive echo. The only fix is to change the connection to bluetooth. Per the tech, they are in the process of changing their instructions to advise people to default to a BT connection vice aux. I have since done that and it solves the echo problem but adds the minor inconvenience of having to ensure that the volume is up on your phone (with a BT connection, phone output volume will impact the truck's volume). Otherwise, no issues with BT so far.
- After a few starts, I start having a problem on pretty much every other trip. On start, it would default to the Hamilton OS screen (rather than CarPlay) and a window would pop up saying "Unauthorized Product." For me, this would not resolve itself until I restarted the truck. Had this happen in downtown DC in an unfamiliar area; CarPlay came up on start then switched to "Unauthorized Product" before I got to the first red light. Had to restart at the light to get CarPlay maps back.
- Hamilton emailed me the files for a software update - they also give you a thumb drive in the box just for this purpose - and I was able to get it updated pretty easily.
- Restarted to CarPlay no problem in the driveway. However, on the first drive to dinner, it started up in CarPlay on both legs only to revert the Hamilton home screen within about a minute. I pressed the CarPlay icon to return to CarPlay, only to have it take me to the CarPlay setup screen (essentially the default setup screen where it asks if you want to setup as wired or wireless) where it sat for about 5-10 seconds before getting itself back to the CarPlay OS.
- I reached out to the techs for a fix to this today, waiting to hear back. I'm hoping a simple disconnect/reconnect will fix this.

Overall, I have nothing to compare it to in the 200. I ran a Sony XAV-4000 in my FJ62 that had pretty much flawless Apple CarPlay connectivity, and a Pioneer unit in my 100 (that I did a pretty extensive write-up on here) that never gave me any problems. I think if we want to have "native" CarPlay in the 200 we're going to have to accept some of these imperfections in units like the Hamilton and help them work through fixes. I suppose it's still better than not having it at all, but at the same time I can't have maps or calls dropping off when I really need them.

Also, when deciding between the streaming and non-streaming version (I got non-streaming), it would've been nice to better understand that the streaming version has a better chip/processor as someone else here mentioned; I probably would've opted for it just for that reason.

Hope this helps someone; I'll update here after working through the post-software update issues.
What year is your LC?…mine is 2016+ upgrade, wondering if you are working with an older generation.
 
Just installed mine yesterday!! This was a replacement for the Naviplus that is far inferior. It's an immense upgrade and if anyone wants a used Naviplus system just hit me up and pay for shipping and you can have it lol.
 
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