Media GX460 / Prado150 pic thread

[OCGX460]

i’ll consider that. i didn’t even think of that as i thought the trail was fairly mild. but to your point 8 hrs is 8 hrs, and it was over 100 outside.

will stiffer spring help? it’s a cheaper band aid solution.

It depends. Stiffer springs can help if your current springs are too soft for the vehicle’s loaded weight and you’re using too much travel or sitting low. But they won’t fix shock fade. If your current springs are already properly rated for the load, going stiffer will mostly make the daily ride harsher and may cause the suspension to skip or lose compliance over rough terrain.

For an eight-hour trail day in 100-degree heat, better heat capacity from reservoir shocks would address the actual fade issue more directly.

 

[Hiluxforever]

It depends. Stiffer springs can help if your current springs are too soft for the vehicle’s loaded weight and you’re using too much travel or sitting low. But they won’t fix shock fade. If your current springs are already properly rated for the load, going stiffer will mostly make the daily ride harsher and may cause the suspension to skip or lose compliance over rough terrain.

For an eight-hour trail day in 100-degree heat, better heat capacity from reservoir shocks would address the actual fade issue more directly.

All of this.
I am switching to 5160s in the back, personally.

 

[OCGX460]

All of this.
I am switching to 5160s in the back, personally.

Nice! I started out with a 2 inch shock body without a reservoir to a 2.5 inch aluminum shock with remote reservoir and dual compression adjustors and the difference is massive. Haven't experienced any shock fade since I made the switch.

 

[llm]

It depends. Stiffer springs can help if your current springs are too soft for the vehicle’s loaded weight and you’re using too much travel or sitting low. But they won’t fix shock fade. If your current springs are already properly rated for the load, going stiffer will mostly make the daily ride harsher and may cause the suspension to skip or lose compliance over rough terrain.

For an eight-hour trail day in 100-degree heat, better heat capacity from reservoir shocks would address the actual fade issue more directly.

i’m definitely undersprung since im using the 600lb springs the 6112 came with, but have steel skids and winch. might as well save money for the proper set up

 

[OCGX460]

i’m definitely undersprung since im using the 600lb springs the 6112 came with, but have steel skids and winch. might as well save money for the proper set up

In that case changing your springs should help significantly. FWIW I have full underbody steel skids and steel sliders running the non hd springs front and rear. I don't have front bumper or winch which add a lot of weight to the nose of the vehicle.

 

[Hiluxforever]

i’m definitely undersprung since im using the 600lb springs the 6112 came with, but have steel skids and winch. might as well save money for the proper set up

This where I was and had my front end rebuilt and went with Dobinsons +150lb 2" lift springs in a fresh set of 5100s and its great.

 

[r2m]

You guys are all making me jealous with all your adventure photos.
My wife and I are supposed to do HWY 49, Labor Day weekend and continue on for about a week, total of about 9± days.
For those of you who don't know, highway 49 travels through all the old mining towns of the great 1849 gold boo and the miners that were called Forty Niners., hence being called Highway 49. Albeit, it's all paved roads, but doesn't mean we may or may not explore some trails here or there along the way.

 

[llm]

You guys are all making me jealous with all your adventure photos.
My wife and I are supposed to do HWY 49, Labor Day weekend and continue on for about a week, total of about 9± days.
For those of you who don't know, highway 49 travels through all the old mining towns of the great 1849 gold boo and the miners that were called Forty Niners., hence being called Highway 49. Albeit, it's all paved roads, but doesn't mean we may or may not explore some trails here or there along the way.

i went with my friend who came along has never been on these type of trails, only the local ohv place. his new favorite app is OnX. he kept checking the app every where we went.

 

[Banandalorian]

i’m definitely undersprung since im using the 600lb springs the 6112 came with, but have steel skids and winch. might as well save money for the proper set up

Definitely not enough front spring. You could experiment with more preload in the front or stiffer front springs on the 6112s you already have.
That being said, some bigger remote res shocks to go with some stiffer front springs will probably be worth it since you are doing 8+ hour off road drives. I send it pretty hard on my Dobinson MRR + Perryparts set up and I've never had issues with crashing through the bumpstops or with shock fade and thats with E load 33x12.5 tires.

 

[Timujin]

Swapped the factory 19” wheels for factory 18” wheels. Added some A-Premium TPMSs and Pirelli AT+ tires in the factory 265/60R18 size.

 

[Ol Yeller]

Swapped the factory 19” wheels for factory 18” wheels. Added some A-Premium TPMSs and Pirelli AT+ tires in the factory 265/60R18 size.
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You will have to let us know how you like the Scorpions, I’ve just been made aware of them recently

…no not those scorpions.

 

[Badao]

Anyone running Wildpeak AT4W? Had a great experience with the AT3W so decided to go with the newer version, ended up spent a few weeks chasing vibrations and pulls. Turned out 3 of the 4 tires were out of round, and the other one had to do match mounted to lower the road forces.

After everything was done and alignment confirmed. It still drift to the right so I am suspecting one of the tire may have radial pull.

 

[Hiluxforever]

Nah, they are quite heavy for the type of tire they are.
I favor Bridgestone/Yokohama/Nokian.

 

[Timujin]

Have a set of A/T4Ws on Offerup because they are too dang heavy at 60lbs each LT275/70R18. They were on my new to me 2500 tow truck when I purchased it. Probably a great tire, but at 60 pounds each I don’t care.

 

[Hiluxforever]

Have a set of A/T4Ws on Offerup because they are too dang heavy at 60lbs each LT275/70R18. They were on my new to me 2500 tow truck when I purchased it. Probably a great tire, but at 60 pounds each I don’t care.

Yeah, they weigh the same or more than a yoko MT carcass and I dont know how good they are on Ice or Hard pack.

Unless you wheel in sharp rocks or nasty stuff I would highly recommend Dueler Ascents/ Destination XTs which use the same carcass, or Nokian AT if you cant run snows but want the best winter traction in the AT.

My truck drove amazing on 285 70r17 Revo 3s. The dueler ascent is its replacement. There are also Bridgestone Mavericks at Discount. Hard to say if they are better then the Dest XT or Dueler Ascent.

E load range carcass between 50-53 lbs

 

[Timujin]

You will have to let us know how you like the Scorpions, I’ve just been made aware of them recently





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…no not those scorpions.

Here I am with a second set of Pirelli A/T+ tires. They check the correct boxes for my use: Budget friendly, great dry grip, silent when pushed hard in the dry with no sudden loss of grip, lightweight, wet grip is decent, decent ride, offroad capable, triple peak certified, and they aren’t too loud on the highway.

 

[Rednexus]

I've had AT4Ws for over a year. They probably have 15K on them now. Great tires and smooth as silk. They are SL-rated 285s - the C and heavier are far too heavy IMO.

 

[Badao]

I've had AT4Ws for over a year. They probably have 15K on them now. Great tires and smooth as silk. They are SL-rated 285s - the C and heavier are far too heavy IMO.

I should have stayed with SL. Since I added more weights and rooftop tent, the SL tires were squashed when aired down to 20psi out on the trails. They don’t make C rated for 265/70r18 so I went with E and felt the weight immediately.

 

[Hiluxforever]

I should have stayed with SL. Since I added more weights and rooftop tent, the SL tires were squashed when aired down to 20psi out on the trails. They don’t make C rated for 265/70r18 so I went with E and felt the weight immediately.

Yea, for that weight I really like my Yoko MTs. But I run dedicated snow tires.

I air down to 11 so I can make spinal tap jokes and make newbs nervous that I am going to debead.

285-75r17s on oem steelies. The traction and ride quality aired down is amazing.

This was after adding a winch and armor before adding +200 lb 2 inch lift dobinsons springs. On oem control arms.

 

[Rednexus]

I should have stayed with SL. Since I added more weights and rooftop tent, the SL tires were squashed when aired down to 20psi out on the trails. They don’t make C rated for 265/70r18 so I went with E and felt the weight immediately.

FWIW, I've towed up to nearly 6,000# with my SL Wildpeaks (at 51 psi), without weight distribution, meaning I was adding ~600# of weight on the rear axle alone. They did just fine at 51 psi (max rating), as they have a load rating of 2,756# per tire. There is no way any GX could ever reach that load rating, even if the heaviest bumpers/fridges/tents/etc were added to it. Your E-load AT4Ws are rated at 3,525# per tire!

I'd personally unload them for some SL-rated tires and maybe look at going to a 17" wheel so you have more sidewall for ride comfort.