4:56, a S/C, and 35's is another option. 

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4:56, a S/C, and 35's is another option.![]()
I am getting a set of 35''s soon, still running stock gears and of course rehearing came into play. I live in LA, pretty flat here, until you hit a nice long grade coming back home from the Valley for example. The Grapevine is a nasty long stretch of freeway where my stock geared 80 on 33", not loaded, struggles a bit at 6% for 6.5 miles.
A lot of people apparently are trashing the 4.56 setup.
I played with the gear calculator on tacomaworld using different gears and tire sizes. To me it looks as if the 35's are better suited with 4.56 since it brings it almost dead on to stock form. Stock form being a good compromise between power band, fuel economy, reliability/longevity, engine noise, etc.
Disclosure: All this is theory. YMMV in real life.
Running everything stock, at 65mph on 31" the RPM is at 2881 (this doesn't sound real, maybe because the calculator is set for a Tacoma gearing???)
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Running 33's on stock gear 4.11 gets you lower RPM (2734), little less real on the road power and slightly higher real speeds compared to the speedo.
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Running 35's on the calculator with stock gears gets you in a nice overdrive mode (2594) while on nice on a flat surface, a real pain I assume at elevation.
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Looking at 4.56 gears on 35's the RPM is almost at stock figures.
I drove a diesel for way too long I guess and seeing just over 3000RPM at 65MPH makes me nervous, especially since the 1FZ is not a performance race engine, it actually behaves more like a diesel in terms of power band at low to mid RPMs.
I also plan on switching back and forth between 33's and 35's, with the larger tires for more off road trips and 33's for DD in the city.
As you probably guessed it, I am leaning toward the 4.56 setup. It looks to me if I am running 33's on 4.88 it would be overkill.
Also, I am considering a supercharger in the future, so the lack of a lower gear (4.88) might be mitigated by the increase in power.
I think @NLXTACY has a s/c and 35's, but not sure about the gears if they're stock or otherwise. @Qball was also bragging about his truck behaving really nice on 35's I think, but not sure if his engine is blown or stock. I have no idea about his gears either.
Am I heading in the right direction with my setup? 4.56 gears, interchanging tire sizes (33's and 35's), and a possible supercharger in the future?
Valley boys, you can chime in at anytime. BTW, I'll be in the neighborhood on Saturday, picking up the tires.
Good thread....So does anybody have any opinions for us 3FE guys with 35's?
I have 35's with stock gearing and my rig has poor performance on the road. It is terrible going up hills.
So..4:88 or 4:56?
Good thread....So does anybody have any opinions for us 3FE guys with 35's?
I have 35's with stock gearing and my rig has poor performance on the road. It is terrible going up hills.
So..4:88 or 4:56?
What limits have you found on trail (this can help know what mitigation options might help)?I know some people dislike bumping an old thread, but this seems like the right place for this, so SHUTTY.
I have a supercharged 97 on a 2" Ironman lift and 33s. It's primarily a trail rig, but I drive it to the trail, so it needs to be able to make a highway trip. I feel the power is adequate with the 33s, though I've never driven it with stock 31s to know what it "should" feel like. It spends 95% of its time between 6,700 and 12,000 feet above sea level. I've found it's limits on the trail, and I'd like to raise them. I'm working on a plan to upgrade, slowly, in two phases:
I intend to regear the diffs once and only once.
- 35s and differential regearing to 4.56 or 4.88.
- 37s, new suspension and all the supporting bits, and 10% underdrive high-range transfer case gears (effectively 5.02 or 5.37, respectively).
It seems like 4.56s are not widely availableEDIT: I just found a source for Revolution 4.56s. Effective 5.37 seems awfully low. The supercharger seems to be the monkey-wrench in this whole discussion, so my questions are these:
- Anyone out there have a supercharger and 37s with 4.88s and the underdrive TC gears (5.37 combo)? Is it a screamer on the highway?
- With the s/c, might I be able to get away with 4.88s for both 35s and 37s?
- This thread makes it pretty clear that 4.56s for 35s is a "waste of time", but given the plan and the s/c, does this combo make more sense?
Your experiences and input are greatly appreciated.
Also, if you are doing the transfer low it is a perfect time for the high gear too.I know some people dislike bumping an old thread, but this seems like the right place for this, so SHUTTY.
I have a supercharged 97 on a 2" Ironman lift and 33s. It's primarily a trail rig, but I drive it to the trail, so it needs to be able to make a highway trip. I feel the power is adequate with the 33s, though I've never driven it with stock 31s to know what it "should" feel like. It spends 95% of its time between 6,700 and 12,000 feet above sea level. I've found it's limits on the trail, and I'd like to raise them. I'm working on a plan to upgrade, slowly, in two phases:
I intend to regear the diffs once and only once.
- 35s and differential regearing to 4.56 or 4.88.
- 37s, new suspension and all the supporting bits, and 10% underdrive high-range transfer case gears (effectively 5.02 or 5.37, respectively).
It seems like 4.56s are not widely availableEDIT: I just found a source for Revolution 4.56s. Effective 5.37 seems awfully low. The supercharger seems to be the monkey-wrench in this whole discussion, so my questions are these:
- Anyone out there have a supercharger and 37s with 4.88s and the underdrive TC gears (5.37 combo)? Is it a screamer on the highway?
- With the s/c, might I be able to get away with 4.88s for both 35s and 37s?
- This thread makes it pretty clear that 4.56s for 35s is a "waste of time", but given the plan and the s/c, does this combo make more sense?
Your experiences and input are greatly appreciated.