seapotato said:
I cruise nicely on the freeway in 5th with stock 4.10 gears and 33"s. Definitely have to drop it into 4th for the hills tho.
Remember that the H41 has the same gearing 1st-4th as the H55F.
gearing behind a diesel
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I cruise nicely on the freeway in 5th with stock 4.10 gears and 33"s. Definitely have to drop it into 4th for the hills tho.
Remember that the H41 has the same gearing 1st-4th as the H55F.
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yea, ill probably be running 35" or bigger tires in the future....i want to build this truck up for wheeling and just like diesels better and thats why i want to do the swap so im not hugly concerned about the trucks highway performance because i mostly want a trail rig but its gonna have to stay street legal...ill have a different DD tho (im hoping) so yea...more emphasis into the engines torque and its ability to turn a larger tire SLOWLY as i dont care for mud much, id rather play on rocks or that sort of stuff then try to squeez horspower and hit a mud pit
bigbrowndog said:Just wondering G.B, will your turbo 3B drag a 1HZ off? My turbo 2H does.
To continue the theme:
Dood...I don't care about the my dick is bigger, better and faster then yours debate. For me, lubrication is where it's at. Hot oil jets gushing where needed, keeping the in and out action going and going and going...
gb
LOL, I really expected a little more than that from you. Seems you are the only authorised opinion on the 2H.Greg_B said:To continue the theme:
Dood...I don't care about the my dick is bigger, better and faster then yours debate. For me, lubrication is where it's at. Hot oil jets gushing where needed, keeping the in and out action going and going and going...
gb
he 60 out....if you want anything, PM me.
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vanzbrown wrote:
carts wrote:
joel HJ60 wrote:
What did your entire turbo + intercooler setup cost?
if that question was aimed at me, it cost about $3800.
That includes new turbo, manifold, exhaust, installation, plumbing, intercooler core, intercooler plumbing in 3 inch stainless steel and blow off valve and boost gauge.
I think it was a reasonable investment.
Thats a cracker of a price... How much of that included work you did yourself and/or mates rates...
Thats sensational armsup
Leeroy
I installed the turbo, which was around 2800 installed from memory. it is a Denco kit with schwitzer turbo and includes full exhaust. the Intercooler was sourced on ebay, around $300?, Carts mounted it himself, we cut some holes in the radiator support panel for the plumbing, and the intercooler plumbing was supplied and installed in stainless steel by a reputable exhaust shop. we then found that with the air volume in the intercooler and boost over 10psi, boost was spiking (off the top of 15psi gauge) due to the throttle butterfly used to govern fuel delivery, so a BOV was sourced on ebay modified to work with the very low vacuum generated in the 2H inlet, then installed to the intercooler plumbing.
with a bit of imagination and perserverance its possible to do a custom turbo on a 2H with a second hand import turbo for very cheap - possibly as cheap as new extractors/full exhaust - and even if the turbo costs a few hundred more, the extra power is definitely worth it.
Although the 2H is not the best candidate for turbocharging, cart's one is standing up to 13psi quite well - the key thing is to keep the EGT's low - IO think we have his set up for 500C max post turbo.
It keeps up with (ok it's slightly quicker!) than my 80 series factory turbo multivalve.
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Location: Seven Hills NSW
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vanzbrown wrote:
carts wrote:
joel HJ60 wrote:
What did your entire turbo + intercooler setup cost?
if that question was aimed at me, it cost about $3800.
That includes new turbo, manifold, exhaust, installation, plumbing, intercooler core, intercooler plumbing in 3 inch stainless steel and blow off valve and boost gauge.
I think it was a reasonable investment.
Thats a cracker of a price... How much of that included work you did yourself and/or mates rates...
Thats sensational armsup
Leeroy
I installed the turbo, which was around 2800 installed from memory. it is a Denco kit with schwitzer turbo and includes full exhaust. the Intercooler was sourced on ebay, around $300?, Carts mounted it himself, we cut some holes in the radiator support panel for the plumbing, and the intercooler plumbing was supplied and installed in stainless steel by a reputable exhaust shop. we then found that with the air volume in the intercooler and boost over 10psi, boost was spiking (off the top of 15psi gauge) due to the throttle butterfly used to govern fuel delivery, so a BOV was sourced on ebay modified to work with the very low vacuum generated in the 2H inlet, then installed to the intercooler plumbing.
with a bit of imagination and perserverance its possible to do a custom turbo on a 2H with a second hand import turbo for very cheap - possibly as cheap as new extractors/full exhaust - and even if the turbo costs a few hundred more, the extra power is definitely worth it.
Although the 2H is not the best candidate for turbocharging, cart's one is standing up to 13psi quite well - the key thing is to keep the EGT's low - IO think we have his set up for 500C max post turbo.
It keeps up with (ok it's slightly quicker!) than my 80 series factory turbo multivalve.
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You know I am not authorized at all...
I don't know where you would get that idea; certainly not from me saying I am the only opinion. In fact I try and maintain mindfulness mentioning "others swear by the 2H", when I post my thoughts.
You have done a good job of talking about the 2H and offering an alternative opinion, as has Tapage. I do not try and shut you down when you do. Why would you try and take this to a personal arena, and insinuate? I expected more from you...
The day people in this forum can not have a meaningful respectful differing discussion, offering points of view given from their experience or from the experience of those around them...is the day this forum dies. At the end of the debate some generalizations may well appear, giving knowledge to all. You have every right to offer your opinion, and you have taken that right on many occations and used it. Good on you mate!
One day I will make it back to Oz, and we can then sit, talk, laugh, have a few brews and tip our glass to the fact that as thinking human beings we can celebrate our differences, all the while appreciating the commonality we share about Land Cruisers in general.
Besides…I thought my post was clever, and funny! hehe
Cheers and Peace.
gb
Greg,Greg_B said:You know I am not authorized at all...
I don't know where you would get that idea; certainly not from me saying I am the only opinion. In fact I try and maintain mindfulness mentioning "others swear by the 2H", when I post my thoughts.
You have done a good job of talking about the 2H and offering an alternative opinion, as has Tapage. I do not try and shut you down when you do. Why would you try and take this to a personal arena, and insinuate? I expected more from you...
The day people in this forum can not have a meaningful respectful differing discussion, offering points of view given from their experience or from the experience of those around them...is the day this forum dies. At the end of the debate some generalizations may well appear, giving knowledge to all. You have every right to offer your opinion, and you have taken that right on many occations and used it. Good on you mate!
One day I will make it back to Oz, and we can then sit, talk, laugh, have a few brews and tip our glass to the fact that as thinking human beings we can celebrate our differences, all the while appreciating the commonality we share about Land Cruisers in general.
Besides…I thought my post was clever, and funny! hehe
Cheers and Peace.
gb
you are quite polite both on the forums and off. you have your opinions as do all of us. as long as the opinion is based somewhat on facts then it holds water, if it based on conjecture then it is hot air...
the nice thing about opinions is they can change with time and experience.
i thought your post was unlike the Greg that i have come to know on the forum but i had a good laugh all the same...
cheers and peace
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well....im still not sure which engine would be best, ill probably end up finding a couple bj and hj's and test driving them....before i make a final call on engine, there are pros and cons to both engines, everyones advice has been helpfull and informative as you guys know alot more about this stuff than i do but somthing else thats gonna have to hold sway is just how each engine drives and thats somthen ill have to do when im finding my donor rig
thanks
thanks
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ok, so iv only checked compression in a gasser...how would i go about this in a diesel? or should i take anything im serious about buying into a shop nd get it tested?
yotawheeler said:
A diesel compression tester is capable of up to 1000 psi and is usually screwed into a glowplug or injector hole.
Generally,if they start up easy cold the compresssion is ok.
As for the 3B vs 2H decision. Get the best one regardless of 4 or 6 cyl. You dont have such a big choice so you want one that will last and off road it wont make much difference.
yeah, diesel compression testers are pretty pricey to buy, but you can get it checked at a shop easy enough I would think...
but if for whatever reason it's not possible to test compression, make sure you see it start cold.
if you show up , and the engine is running or warm, tell him you'll be back the next day...the colour of that initial cloud of smoke tells you a lot about a diesel
cheers,
ryan
but if for whatever reason it's not possible to test compression, make sure you see it start cold.
if you show up , and the engine is running or warm, tell him you'll be back the next day...the colour of that initial cloud of smoke tells you a lot about a diesel
cheers,
ryan
seapotato said:
such as...?
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the cloud of smoke tells you about the valves, if its burnen oil, what kinda shape your injectors r in....correct me if im wrong here
Greg .. dude .. I'm pretty sure that you have a lots more aknowledge than me about cruisers and overall in engines .. as you saw .. anyof us have all of the truth with us ..
I'm a 2H lover .. and you know never I saw or gonna say other Toyota ( or non Toyota if are really good ) engine are bad .. or less than mine ..
I thought all word here and in the good way .. and for sure are nice with other kinds of persons and taste ..
:beeer: for us !!!
I'm a 2H lover .. and you know never I saw or gonna say other Toyota ( or non Toyota if are really good ) engine are bad .. or less than mine ..
I thought all word here and in the good way .. and for sure are nice with other kinds of persons and taste ..
:beeer: for us !!!
at one time i would have whole heartedly agreed with you but as time goes by i have seen some weird stuff.yotawheeler said:
a gutless engine doesn't nessarily have poor compression, smoke doesn't always dictate poor injectors as it could also be glow plugs, fuel settings etc. white smoke doesn't always point to cracked head or head gasket gone, blue doesn't alwys mean oil concerns...
in GENERAL what you have said is true, but there are exceptions...
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yea, these are things that i have been told on the board in another thread i had going....so its interesting to know that that statment isnt gospel and it could be other things that just need tinkering....but im a ways off buying a rig so ill have to try to keep all this in mind when that time does roll around...
yotawheeler said:
Nohings gospel when visually assessing an engines condition,but with a diesel if they start easily and smoothly from cold ,then its a general indication the engine is good.
The reasons behind hard starting are always more difficult to determine but if it has high miles and for no obvious reason its hard to start,then you should expect the worst until proven otherwise.
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allrighty
<i>white smoke doesn't always point to cracked head or head gasket gone</i>
I had this situation with my 2H. It blew a lot of white smoke for about 2 minutes on cold start and I was getting concerned. I had the injectors cleaned and it eliminated the condition.
My other 2H, auto, blows heavy black smoke when under 'heavy' acceleration. I am wondering if this could also be injectors, or perhaps fuel is too rich.
Any thoughts?
I had this situation with my 2H. It blew a lot of white smoke for about 2 minutes on cold start and I was getting concerned. I had the injectors cleaned and it eliminated the condition.
My other 2H, auto, blows heavy black smoke when under 'heavy' acceleration. I am wondering if this could also be injectors, or perhaps fuel is too rich.
Any thoughts?