Front anti-sway bar quick disconnect solution

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Not the most elegant solution, but a solution.

I wheeled my 80 with a disconnected front anti-sway bar for almost a decade and found the difference to be significant not in terms of ultimate wheel travel, but in overall compliance of the front suspension and resulting reduction in body movement. It generally makes for a better balanced truck off road.
The 100-series front suspension is arguably more "tight" than the 80, and could also benefit from losing the front anti-sway bar off road. The effects have been noted by a few people here on the forum.
The front anti-sway bar has some important effects on-road and during high-speed maneuvers, and it's generally accepted that the front anti-sway bar is needed for safe driving under these circumstances. Hence the need for a "quick disconnect."

Solutions for the 80 involve replacing the bolts at the axle-side mount with quick-release pins and welding a retainer to the frame to hold the disconnected ends of the anti-sway bar up out of the way, like the option LandCruiserPhil fabricated:
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/front-sway-bar-disconnect.22921/
I ran my own version of this and it worked well.

I've created a similar version for my LX470, this time without any welding:

1. Replace the bolts at the lower control arm with a 3/8" pin:

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"Is the pin strong enough?"

This is a low-grade pin from Lowes. I used the same exact pins on the front anti-sway bar on my 80 for almost a decade and they never failed. That said, you can google the shear strength of various grade and size bolts--and once you adjust for the pin having a full 3/8" diameter rather than a nominal diameter that includes the threads--you will find that a grade 2 3/8" pin is very very close to the shear strength of a grade 8 bolt of the same nominal diameter because it is thicker in actual diameter. Sorry, no links.
I've been driving like this for a few months--including off-road where I had the front suspension fully cross-loaded.

Important: To get this 3/8" pin to fit, I did have to drill the threads out of the captive nut on the bracket. No going back on this one.

2. To retain the disconnected bar I utilized existing bolts and holes that hold the front height sensor for the AHC system. My AHC system is long gone, so I don't need these parts. Not sure if the LC has these same bolts or not.

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The bolt holes:

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3. Something to retain the disconnected bar.
I'd like to figure out a classier solution, but I whipped this up with stuff I had in the garage. Maybe somebody can come up with something nicer going forward, but this works.
Small piece of angle steel, drilled for the bolts and cut with a slot:

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4. Bolt onto the frame. Insert Voile ski strap. Anti-swar bar is out of the way.
Keep in mind that there is no force on the bar other than its dead weight. The strap only has to support the weight of the bar.

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Without fully articulating the front end, I can't say for 100% certain that there is adequate clearance for the lower arm to compress to the bumpstop without contacting the free end of the anti-way bar link--but it looks like it should be just fine. The anti-sway bar is rotated up all the way until the central section has contacted the fiberglass skid plate, so I'm quite confident that there is adequate clearance. I'm headed to Moab next weekend, so I'll report back with details.

Important considerations:

If the central portion of the rotated anti-sway bar were to contact a rock and be pushed up, it would rotate the bar down against the strap (or whatever you've used to retain the bar). As long as I'm not dragging the figerglass skid across the rocks (wouldn't want to do that anyway), this this will not happen.
However, in the event of the arm being forced down against the lower control arm, it appears that all brake lines and sensor wires are out of the line of fire (NOT the case on the 80.)

Last but not least, it DOES work as a ~quick disconnect/reconnect with the following caveats:
You have to be on flat ground so the anti-sway bar is not loaded.
You have to lay on the ground and reach up behind the tire to greasy dirty parts.
You have to wiggle and put a little effort into getting the pins in and out.
It's probably something you'd want to do right before you hit the trail, and not out in the mud and dirt.

I can disconnect and reconnect both ends in my garage in less than 5 minutes.
 
Because of the nature of our IFS, I don't think you're gaining very much by doing this. The sway bar isn't what's limiting our travel.

Interested to see what your findings are.
 
^ for me the difference running trails with/without the front anti-sway bar connected was night & day. Slightly increased travel at the compression side but more important to me is the enhanced front suspension speed and overall compliancy; especially on washboard.

I've run Hole-In-The Rock three times including 2X on the Rincon, Lockhart, etc., with and without the front sway bar; and the IFS on our rigs comes alive without the ASB. If not for the borderline unsafe and quirky handling on pavement...I'd run without it all the time.

Assuming zero interference...you've got a good mod idea Hayes!
 
^ yes...and speed of the front suspension all things being equal. However the first time you do an off-camber drop you'll be wearing a portion of your undies internally :D It just takes some transition time, for off-camber work, in the seat to get to a trust place again...then all is mobetta.
 
Just need to check if there would be any interference between the ASB and Slee's middle belly skid plate with the ASB links disconnected and raised per OP.
 
Just need to check if there would be any interference between the ASB and Slee's middle belly skid plate with the ASB links disconnected and raised per OP.

This.
If the Slee skid is higher and tighter than the factory fiberglass you'd have less space to work with.
 
So it's not the amount of travel increased, but the ease of the travel?

Like Spresso attested to, I'd expect to have more overall compliance, not necessarily more travel. The front should be more "independent" without the ASB linking the whole front end to itself. On my 80 this resulted in less body movement and a more balanced and stable position through most obstacles because the front end was looser and more quickly responded to the terrain. From what I've read here (Spressomon and others), you get the same effect on the 100.
I did drive around town disconnected, and didn't find the handling too bad. Overall it felt more boat like. More like driving my old lifted 80. Definitely not ideal.
 
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Have you tested off road yet? Totally different animals, but when I used to disconnect my front ASB on my Jeep (completely removed the rear), the suspension really came alive. My little sister has a JKU that we just lifted 2" and put Duratracs on, and I'm trying to convince her how much better it will do offroad with quick disconnects. She thinks it's plenty as it is and never wanted to take it off road to begin with :D
 
This is a really great solution! Honestly, you could probably sell all the parts to this as a kit.

Basically two pins and some rubber bungees. Most people could gather this from their local lowes or Home Depot. I have my front swaybar disconnected and it really does drive differently.

What I like: definite independent suspension action. I can hit a pothole on the passenger side of the truck and the drivers side doesn't join the fray like it used to. Undulating bumps are absorbed nicely. Cushy feel.

What I don't like: corner nose dive on turns. even slow turns cause the front corners to dive deep. Like really deep. Like "am I gonna do a slo mo rollover?" deep. Highway driving is twitchy and definitely unsettled. Spirited driving? Not happening.

I read an interesting article in my most recent truck trend about the new ram power wagon. It apparently comes with an electronic swaybar disconnect system. Cool tech if it's reliable with water crossings etc.
 
Basically two pins and some rubber bungees. Most people could gather this from their local lowes or Home Depot. I have my front swaybar disconnected and it really does drive differently.

What I like: definite independent suspension action. I can hit a pothole on the passenger side of the truck and the drivers side doesn't join the fray like it used to. Undulating bumps are absorbed nicely. Cushy feel.

What I don't like: corner nose dive on turns. even slow turns cause the front corners to dive deep. Like really deep. Like "am I gonna do a slo mo rollover?" deep. Highway driving is twitchy and definitely unsettled. Spirited driving? Not happening.

I read an interesting article in my most recent truck trend about the new ram power wagon. It apparently comes with an electronic swaybar disconnect system. Cool tech if it's reliable with water crossings etc.

You drive on the highway with no front sway bar? :eek: I can only imagine how that feels with such a heavy rig! The Wrangler Rubicons have had electronic disconnecting sway bars since 2004 I believe, and I think they work quite well especially on stock vehicles.
 
Yep.
Not much to put in a kit here.
If I was crafty enough I'd come up with a nicer way to retain the disconnected bar and THEN maybe there'd be something to sell. We'll see what happens in the future.


Basically two pins and some rubber bungees. Most people could gather this from their local lowes or Home Depot. I have my front swaybar disconnected and it really does drive differently.
 
You drive on the highway with no front sway bar? :eek: I can only imagine how that feels with such a heavy rig! The Wrangler Rubicons have had electronic disconnecting sway bars since 2004 I believe, and I think they work quite well especially on stock vehicles.


Well, I'm in the experimental try not to crash stage. I'll be hooking it back up in a couple weeks. Just trying to get a feel for it right now. Yeah, it's definitely not a suggested hwy mod. :-/
 
Hey folks.
I had the LX out on some trails this weekend and was able to trial the disconnected bar in some real conditions.
It worked great.
Stayed in a condo in Moab. Disconnected the bar in town, hit Fins 'n' Things and then the 3D trail--left the bar disconnected all day with only short trips on the highway. Reconnected it the next morning before driving down to the Needles in Canyonlands--quick and easy, less than 5 minutes. Disconnected it at the trailhead and vice-versa on the way out.
The retaining strap actually worked quite well. There was no contact between the end of the disconnected bar and the lower arm, and there was no rattling or banging of the bar whatsoever.
Here's a pic of the front compressed to the bumpstop. You can see that there is ample clearance between the end of the bar and the lower arm:

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Also for the MUD record:
I noticed a clear improvement in body movement (less of it) and overall suspension performance off road with the front ASB disconnected. The effect is not subtle.
I also found the on-road behavior to be totally reasonable--however my truck is not heavily loaded.
 
FYI, I've been driving with my front sb disconnected for 3 months now. I like it. Nose dives, turns have to be slower, and driving 80 mph is floaty, but I'm used to it now :) I'm going to hook it back up this week and see how I feel about it reconnected. I can tell you that undulating roads are cushy now :)
 
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