FJ62 Automatic Tranny Conversion (1 Viewer)

[Bandoo88]

So the stock 4-speed auto tranny in my '89 fj62 is dying and I need to upgrade it. I know everyone talks about the H55f 5-speed manual upgrade, but I am not excited about the $6k it would cost to upgrade, and the fact that I would then be stuck with a
Manual transmission.

The 3fe definitely needs a five speed tranny, but I have to imagine that in 2015, there has to be a good 5-speed automatic I can upgrade to.

Is it possible to upgrade to modern toyota transmission, say an a750f or any other crate options?

 

[Heckraiser]

Most people don't consider a manual transmission "stuck." Lol.

I am not aware of any modern transmission (aka more than 4 gears) that would fit without spending a lot more than an H55 conversion. Why not just rebuild your stocker if you want an auto?

 

[LAMBCRUSHER]

there is not a bolt in option that does not include an H42 4 speed manual, an H55 5 speed manual, or the a440f auto that you already have. The only thing to do to get more options would be to do a motor swap, but it seems overkill to me...my 3FE pushes thru a 4 speed manual. the 5er would be suewheat. the a440f can be rebuilt and furnished with an extrememvalvebody and a macnamara input gear for many more years of service.

 

[Vulin]

6k to swap a H55! Im going to go cry myself to sleep now.

 

[cruisermatt]

... Unless you do it yourself, comes out to around 3 if you do it right.

 

[orangefj45]

... Unless you do it yourself, comes out to around 3 if you do it right.

Care to elaborate?! There's no way you're going to do it "right" for $3k, even if you do all the labor yourself.

This is a classic example of having to have your "filter" on when reading things on the internet.

Georg @ Valley Hybrids

 

[JohninFla]

I think Matt has a used 5 speed, and was thrifty sourcing parts, in addition to doing his own labor.

 

[orangefj45]

Not trying to start an argument here but to me, there's a difference between "doing things on a tight budget" and "doing it right".

On a tight budget, you might be able to do it for $2500-3000.
If you're going to get a new Trans and do it right, you'll be spending upward of $4k.
That's parts only. Not labor.

Georg @ Valley Hybrids

 

[FJ40Jim]

I started to write a response to georg saying 'WTH are you talking about', but then I remembered the OP is not just doing a H42 to H55 swap. This is also an auto to manual swap, so d-shaft mods, drop the dash & swap pedals, all new clutch hydraulic & lines, new FW & clutch, fab/swap a X-member, electrical mods...

So yeah, there is no modern auto that bolts to the (designed in 1937) Toyota F series. It's a miracle they bothered designing the adapters to bolt up a 4peed auto. Better to sell the Cruiser and buy a new 4runner. Then the engine & driveline would be from this century.

 

[cruisermatt]

I just added to 2000 to the cost of my swap, around 1000 with a used 4-speed and zero labor costs. That said this project (which I am just about finished with) is a pain in the ass and should not be approached lightly. I also got many parts dirt cheap from friends... installed the clutch fork you sold me 6 months ago this morning

How much is an h55f? Like 2000-2500 plus shipping?

 

[FJ62OilPatch]

Call cruiser dan in Arizona. He sold me new H55F for $1,995. I had to ship it out to texas, but was less that $200. Manual conversion kit from cruiserparts.net was $750, but all is used. And it's not all the best quality. I then spent another couple hundred for new clutch and master cylinders. I had someone else do labor, and all in it's pretty close to $6,000. Makes me sick to write that out, but I love the conversion. Running a 1989 Fj62. There are tons of threads in this project.

 

[orangefj45]

Don't get me wrong, it's a great conversion and upgrade. I've done a few of them, the first one about ten years ago.

The cheapest price I've seen on a new H55F lately us about $2200. That does not include the shifter, shift knob, 5th gear oil funnel or the longer bolts needed to mate the tcase to the trans. So these parts alone will set you back a bare minimum of $2500 plus tax and/or shipping.

Here's what else you'll need:
Clutch master
Clutch slave
Clutch hydraulic hard and soft lines
Brake fluid
2 gallons of gear oil
Tcase rebuild or reseal kit
Proper drive shafts or modify existing units
Modify or swap out tcase linkage
Pedal bucket with pedals
Carpet
Trans tunnel
Shifter boots for trans and tcase
Bell housing
Bell housing inspection cover
Clutch fork
Clutch fork pivot and boot
Slave cylinder mounting bolts, return spring and bracket as well as mounting bracket
Flywheel
Flywheel bolts
Machine said flywheel
Clutch kit
Cross member
Trans mount
A lot of specialized hardware
Some paint and other consumables

Plus tax and or shipping. Depending on where you live, that could get expensive.

Georg @ Valley Hybrids

 

[LAMBCRUSHER]

reality check; over. it is a laundry list, isn't it? you forgot pan gasket and rear main seal...

 

[LAMBCRUSHER]

and band-aids...

 

[orangefj45]

Good call Simon!!!!!

Might as well add engine oil, filter and drain plug gasket.


Waiter. Check please!

 

[cruisermatt]

+ 209.95 for twin sticks, can't forget those

 

[orangefj45]

Now we're getting close to $6 k without labor!!!!

Lmao

 

[LAMBCRUSHER]

But to the OP, it is all worth it, IMO...my wife had me put in the 4 speed manual rather than fix the auto; of course she would prefer the 5er...the swap is the same regardless of how many forward gears we're talking about.

 

[LAMBCRUSHER]

Now we're getting close to $6 k without labor!!!!

Lmao

yikes...I must be getting old...at least gasoline has stayed affordable.

 

[cruisermatt]

I'm very exited to drive mine for the first time with the stick tomorrow morning. Just a few bits to finish...